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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by w00t@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml
 

EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're loosing an argument ;)

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[–] Mouette@jlai.lu 33 points 1 year ago (96 children)

If the 'thing you dont agree' with is hate speech or shit promotting violence for example that's the only sane option you have lol

[–] yeeter@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So the solution is to just kick them off all the mainstream platforms and ensure they go to their own echo chambers where they are isolated from any reasonable counters to their ideology, which will just ultimately make the problem worse? Brilliant.

It’s like the war on drugs. If we just ban it then surely the problem will disappear.

How can people be this shortsighted?

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Nazis/extremists don't respond to rational arguments against their ideology.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah because normalising fascism in 2016 so that actual nazis came into the light and the mainstream sure helped make them less destructive and made them have less of an echochamber! Oh wait..

[–] michaelrose@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

If you have the choice between an eco chamber where 10% of people are nazis and say nazi shit to other nazis and normalizing nazism to the point where mainstream gathering places are full of crazy nazi babble and having 15% nazis I would chose to contain the poison.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well whenever regular people go in to their communities they get ridiculed and have their comments removed or even banned, so what's the difference?

[–] yeeter@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maintaining the moral high ground is crucial when attempting to fight extremists with reason and discourse.

MLK understood this tactic and brilliantly deployed it with his non-violent movement, and he defeated extremists with reason and discourse.

You can call me naïve, but wouldn't have been a shame if MLK gave up when he was called naïve?

When they go low, we go high.

-Michelle Obama

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wish we lived in a functional democracy where you can go "high, when they go low". The only thing that has resulted in is eroding the democratic system by ceeding power that undemocratic individuals will keep for themselves.

Edit: To add, I believe that Michelle Obama was right when we said that, but the world has radically changed since then.

[–] OhHiMarx@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

No way this isn't a bit

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