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People in the west should stop this madness ...hek whom am I kidding ,they won't .

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[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, you don't want Russia to just take what it wants?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want nuclear war wtf dude?

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think we could avoid that if Russia just went home?

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes... but that isn't going to happen. We live in reality.

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So then you agree with my original statement, what are we even debating?

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nothing, since that was my first comment. I just like pointing out to people that Russia just up and leaving... isn't a thing. Probably the only thing that works now is negotiations.

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just giving them what they want isn't a thing either.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about what the people in the Donbas want? What about what all the civilians caught up in this want? You don't give a fuck about them though this is a game to you.

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More whatabouts are not going to change what I said.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

So you don't give a fuck about anyone's self determination you just blindly follow bourgeois nationalism, got it.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

whatabouts

Thought-terminating cliche

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok. I think there's a word for that... starts with n? ends with ions?

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd like to negotiate the transfer of your home to me for free, or I start shooting.

[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

The people of crimea and the donbas don't want to be ruled by Kiev. Why do you want to force an unwanted gov on them?

[–] COMHASH@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes , just like the US ...WTF bro ..like you westerners have kind of special virtue for overthrowing governments around the world.

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"whatabout the US" is not an educated point, it's a deflection.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it's an entirely relevant point.

[–] ricochet@lemdit.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol ok, you can call it whatever makes you feel better.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

"Why would Russia do this"
"Maybe because the US is doing this?"
"That's whataboutism!"
This is your logic on liberalism