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Health experts think low tobacco prices, a general tolerance of smoking and changes brought by the pandemic may explain the uptick in cigarette use.

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[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The judgement on vaping is still out. It's not been around for long enough to know what health effects it'll have in the long-term, but since you're still inhaling things your lungs just aren't made to inhale I expect that it will have a negative impact on health.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's been around for almost 20 years (first ecig came out in 2006) countless studies have been done that show it is safer then smoking. Your post is deceptive.

[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it? Because if you thought I meant "it's better to just smoke" then you've misinterpreted me, I meant "neither is a good idea". If that was ambiguous then I apologise.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didnt take it as you saying its better to smoke i took it as you saying vaping is just as bad for your health as smoking which it is not.

Vaping is less harmful to your health than smoking. Its not an opinion. If you cant understand that no one can help you. So therefore, if you would use your brain for a minute here, than if you smoke cigarettes, and switch to vaping, that you are doing less harm to your body. Pretty simple idea... its actually a thing already, Its called "harm reduction". Google it.

"Our advice on ecigarettes remains unchanged β€” vaping isn't completely risk-free but is far less harmful than smoking tobacco. If you've switched to vaping and are finding it helpful to stop you smoking, and are not suffering any adverse effects, then carry on, don't go back to smoking. Oct 25, 2019", The Royal College of Physicians.

Google "royal college of physicians vaping study" for the full study.

Obviously if you dont smoke or vape dont start but if you smoke you should seriously consider switching to vaping if you cant quit entirely.

[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp -3 points 1 year ago

We're not talking about 40-somethings who can't get off of cigarettes, we're talking about teenagers who are starting to smoke/vape because they think it's cool.

And your attitude really could use some improvement, you're coming across as a colossal, condescending dick. Blocked.

[–] taladar@feddit.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Safer than smoking does not mean safe. And the tobacco industry has always published misleading studies.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Show me where I said it was safe?

I never said safe I said safer than smoking smart guy.

[–] letmesleep@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The judgement on vaping is still out.

Not really. It's not 100% yes, but it's a pretty safe bet that it's less harmful (as in: still but bad but less). The reason that health advisory boards are hesitant to say that too loud it's by no means clear that the increase of vaping is going to help society as a whole. Because vaping is unhealthy in its own but also because the addiction to nicotine that comes with it may end up turning people into smokers.

Source:

Are e-cigarettes less harmful than regular cigarettes? Yesβ€”but that doesn’t mean e-cigarettes are safe. E-cigarette aerosol generally contains fewer toxic chemicals than the deadly mix of 7,000 chemicals in smoke from regular cigarettes.3

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/about-e-cigarettes.html