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[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

This is going to backfire.

First of all, never try to get inside a conservative's head if you are going to come out with a loser defeatism attitude. 2nd, Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump will not have any control of the trial at all.

of likely GOP primary voters are already convinced the trial is "politically motivated"

That is the most important reason why the trial needs to be televised.

Stop pretending this is entertainment or business as usual, it's not.

Another reason why it is absolutely critical to have the trial televised. I can remember the Watergate TV hearings and the entire country was riveted by the seriousness of the proceedings. The Jan 6 House committee televised hearing were also riveting for everybody who watched them in full. It will be like that only with everyone watching. The very reason for televising the proceedings is so that everybody understands the seriousness.

[–] polyploy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Begging people to understand the severity of the threat Trump and his followers pose is a "loser defeatist attitude"? If you genuinely think that anyone still supporting him is going to come out of watching this man on TV thinking less of him, or seeing it as a serious matter instead of some kind of political assassination of their dear leader, then you've not been paying attention for years.

How many times have liberals been convinced "surely, this will be the end of him!" only for it to galvanize his base and further cement him as their figurehead? Stop thinking that his base has an even remotely similar worldview to yourself, you could show them all the evidence in the world of his wrongdoing and they will still find a way to pretend it's not true. This is what I am trying to get people to understand, if you think fascists play by the rules you are sorely mistaken.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

but this isnt about his base. I have written them off long ago. this is about the rest of the country. galvanizing them into understanding the seriousness of what this two-bit used car salesman huskster tried (and continues trying) to do to this country is the point.

republicans can not win power with their base alone. this was never about them.

[–] polyploy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As I replied to another person above, if you think my message was about votes and elections then you've misunderstood. This is quite literally a trial about an attempted overthrow of an election, their disdain for democracy is clear as day. The extent of that disdain, and what his base might be willing to do to get him in power regardless is exactly what I am trying to get people not to underestimate. Also, it might be a sobering thought to consider how many cops and soldiers are part of his base.

edit: a couple words I missed

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, it might be a sobering thought to consider how many cops and soldiers are part of his base.

So... bend the knee? These traitors are losing legal battles daily, and it's all over the news. Let's keep it rolling.

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