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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it's possible, but that's not how it works in reality.

I think it's a good idea, but with some missteps by Brave. They need to get sites on board before I can truly recommend them.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well nobody is perfect, this thread is making that abundantly clear. If they were still doing all that shit years later everyone might have a point. Make mistakes and learn from it and move on is the only thing I can really ask of anyone. Brave is doing the right thing IMO. As to your comment about BAT, it’s the classic problem of what came first, the chicken or the egg? Not recommending it because it’s not being used so nobody’s recommending it lol.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't recommend it because there are better options. Firefox is privacy respecting, and since it still has an independent rendering and JavaScript engine, it's better for open web standards. On iOS, all browsers have the same rendering engine as per Apple's rules, so I recommend Safari with an ad blocker.

If Brave actually offered something tangibly better for the open web, I would recommend it. But it doesn't, so I recommend something that does.

However, if you need a chromium-based browser, I think Brave and Chromium are about on par, so I recommend both.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By default, pocket makes suggestions to you based on your browsing history and then the aggregate of that is sent to Mozilla. How is that privacy respecting again?

The aggregate of your interaction with sponsored content is sent to Mozilla (sponsored links you've seen, clicked on, and how many times you've clicked on them). Your browsing history is never sent, either in whole or aggregate. It also sends your region, country, state, and county, but not your IP or anything that could uniquely identify you.

Since you aren't being identified, nor can you likely be identified, it's privacy respecting. Other advertisers attempt to build a uniquely identifying profile on you where they grab as much information as they can. When compared, Pocket looks a lot better than every other advertiser.

Regardless, I'm not comfortable with Pocket, so I disable it. I can't disable advertisers tracking me.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Searches: Firefox sends Mozilla what you type into the search bar and Mozilla may share that data with its partners.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's the actual quote about search:

Firefox by default sends search queries to your search provider to help you discover common phrases other people have searched for and improve your search experience if your selected search provider supports search suggestions... Learn more, including how to disable this feature...

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If you enable "Improve the Firefox Suggest Experience," we and our partners may also receive your search queries.

So it sends search queries to get search suggestions. I didn't see it mentioned one way or the other, but I'm assuming Firefox doesn't send any personally identifiable information with it, though the server probably can track you somewhat with your IP address.

Sending queries to partners is optional.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Firefox Suggest and Top Pick

Mozilla is developing a new feature that helps deliver you better information with less effort. It’s called Firefox Suggest and an early version of it is currently available to users in the United States. By default, Firefox Suggest shows you recommended and sponsored content based on local data stored on your own computer, such as websites from your browsing history, bookmarks and open tabs.

Sites you visit: Firefox sends Mozilla which suggestions you click or dismiss and Mozilla may share that data with its partners.

Location data: Firefox temporarily sends Mozilla your IP address which we use to suggest content based on your country, state, and city. Mozilla may share location information with our partners, but partners will not receive your IP address.

Technical & interaction data: Firefox sends Mozilla data such as the number of times Firefox suggests or displays content and your clicks on that content, as well as basic data about your interactions with Firefox Suggest. Mozilla shares information with our partners about how many times suggestions are shown and clicked for verification and feature improvement.

If you choose to enable "Improve the Firefox Suggest Experience," Firefox shares the following information to improve your browsing experience and to improve the service:

Searches: Firefox sends Mozilla what you type into the search bar and Mozilla may share that data with its partners. We take measures to limit our and our partners’ ability to identify you. Learn more.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Wrong section but I misread it and its an opt in.