That can be extended to anything that isn't practical or useful, what I'm saying isn't that you should be paid for sitting on your couch specifically, what I'm saying is that you should have enough money to cover your needs even if your job is creating very abstract art, being a professional swimmer, or an artificial one like managing a manager.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

You want a universal basic income then. I also want that to happen, as it will allow more people to chase their dream career while being able to afford to live.

[–] PizzasDontWearCapes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who is responsible for providing for people who choose not to contribute?

I'm not working away all day when I could be persuing a hobby and still getting paid just so someone else can persue a hobby and get paid

[–] iByteABit@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not talking about luxuries or even a comfortable life, I just think that everyone should have enough to live under a roof and have enough to eat healthy every day.

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Then get a proper job

[–] root@aussie.zone -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would think being an elite athlete is way beyond just a hobby.

Running a few laps around the field every day, yes a hobby. Being faster or able to run farther than 95% of the Australian population, that's way beyond hobby levels.

[–] PizzasDontWearCapes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

These are activities that only exist for the sake of the participants and are not financially self-sufficient

They may be super intense hobbies, but if they aren't jobs or charitable services, they are still hobbies