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They're probably the only ones who even has access to such statistics. If you're simply just going to refute the stats because of the source then atleast provide some credible counter evidence.
Tesla's numbers are trash. Tesla have been caught again and again lying.
..then provide some more trustworthy stats because you just saying that is not it. This is literally like debating a climate change denier or flat earther.
"Here's a picture of the earth from space"
Why would Tesla release any numbers that would make it look bad?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2023/04/26/tesla-again-paints-a-very-misleading-story-with-their-crash-data/
Even according to that article autopilot and FSD seems to be about at the level as human driver. I'm willing to accept that - many others arent.
The narrative here is that these systems are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed to be used on public roads. My argument is that they're not as dangerous as reading stories about these individual incidents might make them seem like and they're getting better all the time. If they're not significantly better than human drivers now they will be soon and Tesla most likely is going to lead the way.