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honestly I hope it stays this active. fediverse feels more at home to someone whos been on the internet since before it was so centralised, something like this feels like a good mix. lots of different decentralized sites able to communicate with eachother, rather than just one site holding everyone hostage. mastodon never really took off too big but I hope lemmy can make it happen.
Mastodon, Akkoma, Pleroma, Calckey and Misskey together are somewhere in 15-16M users. There is already so much content it is impossible to catch it all. And it is still growing.
God damn, Linus Torvalds is roasting Nazi trolls in there, it is awesome.
I would definitely say the whole Twitter-like side of Fediverse really took off...
Frankly I'm happy Mastodon didn't become the leader in the fediverse. My main paint point with twitter was how the character limit really stifled long form discussion. Much more nuanced, complex conversations can be held here since we're not chained to 250 characters.
Yes, I looked at Mastodon a few years ago. Micro-blogging is more person focused and encourages short more or less meaningless posts. I am into more thoughtful content focused on the content not the people. Just does not fit my style. Never really understood the Twitter craze. Must fit a certain kind of personality or maybe it is a business model or something.
If you run Akkoma, you can choose the character limit. My instance has 5000 as the limit. And the same apps work, you can even use the Mastodon frontend with it.
Both can peacefully co-exist. There's a market for folks who like micro blogging and a market for deeper reddit style discussions. Them being able to talk to each other is a bonus.
I always thought the original idea of witter was to share an interesting link with a headline. You know, like this:
Pi-hole FTL v5.23, Web v5.20 and Core v5.17 released https://pi-hole.net/blog/2023/05/28/pi-hole-ftl-v5-23-web-v5-20-and-core-v5-17-released/
If you’re trying to have a meaningful conversation about the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything, it’s going to feel very awkward trying post your ideas one sentence at a time.
The problem is not all conversations are either sharing an interesting link or deep conversations about life, the universe, and everything. What if I just want to give my opinion on a pie recipe I liked, but want to say more than "damn that shit was good!". Twitter stifles all forms of conversation, it's a site dedicated to one liners and quips. Even what I'm saying now is more than 250 characters.
@Hamartiogonic @SenatorBumCuckets
Interesting, I'm actually thinking that the character limit forces the user to put certain thoughts and pieces into paragraphs.
It becomes easier to interact with, e.g. disagreeing with opinions expressed in *one* easily linked to piece of the whole, as having to "disagree with *some unspecified* parts of a monolithic text".
But I do understand that people don't like to be... Aggressively encouraged to be brief.
Have you noticed that when children try to explain something mundane, they end up rambling on on using lots and lots of simple words, even though you could have said the same thing in a single sentence? Well, that’s because children aren’t that experienced in concise expression. Adults face the same situation when discussing more complex subjects on Twitter. An experienced writer could be able to squeeze complex ideas into a single tweet, but normal people just can’t without making some serious compromises. You could cut the story short and risk being misunderstood or split the idea it into 42 separate tweets.
Even if you manage to find the most concise expression, it might also be so obscure and antiquated, that the other people just wouldn’t understand it. Seems like the limitations of Twitter make it very difficult to discuss complex topics such as climate change, immigration, religion, ethics, politics etc. without starting WW3 while you’re at it.
Alternatively, you could always include a bunch of disclaimers with all of your comments just to point out that you’re actually only saying about 10% of what you actually believe.
BTW I support solar power (with many caveats), nuclear power has its downsides (even more asterisks here), and I use a paper filter when making coffee (super complicated topic).
Same here, it's quite interesting. ~Cherri