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only a handful of investigators at most have been assigned to work on the Nord Stream case on a full-time basis.

the perception among investigators is that the will to solve the case is not particularly pronounced in the capital. Politically, it is easier to live with what happened if it remains unclear who is behind the attacks.

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[โ€“] D1G17AL@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. So what if Ukraine destroyed the pipeline. Russia invaded their country. Its war. All bets are off when it comes to war. The Ukrainians are allowed to attack Russian assets. Whether they did it themselves or they were helped by the US doesn't particularly matter. Short of boots on the ground the USA is doing everything it can to support Ukraine in this war. Russia and Russian propagandists can go fuck themselves.

[โ€“] Ooops@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This. So what if Ukraine destroyed the pipeline. Russia invaded their country. Its war.

How about this as a draft of how to react?

But they didn't attack the Russian side. They have commited an act of war against an ally. Oh, and of course they kept importing and transfering Russian gas none-the-less... through lines they get paid for. Not really surprising given the fact that they had also pushed lies and propaganda about Germany for half a year at that point (We could see German weapons delivered to Ukraine in videos back in March or see Russians document German mines in April while Ukrainian officials still openly lied that not a single piece promised -including from before the war- was ever delivered... in June. We also will not simply forget the lying propagadist pushing desinformation in Germany for 7 years while pretending to be an actual ambassador), but very telling.

Proof that they detonated the pipelines that weren't even in use, so purely for symbolical reasons, and were also willing to attack the infrastructure of a country supporting them to do so would very well fit the picture and should have the obvious consequences:

Supporting them right now makes sense from humanitarian and geo-political perspectives. Once that acute problem is handled... let's treat them exactly like the "Russia light" corrupt shit hole that is lying, pushing propaganda and carrying out false-flag operation against an ally even, probably while believing this to be actual foreign politics.