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In China, It’s Already Cheaper to Buy EVs Than Gasoline Cars::undefined

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[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I was in China two months ago and the use of electric cars is honestly changing the feeling of big cities. Delivery motorcycles and service vehicles are all electric now, and with the number of electric cars on the road, streets are a lot quieter now barring the frequent honking. Less air pollution too.

What I love and Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they've fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design to the car sounds. Made me feel like I was walking around a cyberpunk movie set.

[–] Yonrak@feddit.uk 28 points 1 year ago

I just got back from a business trip to China also. The high proportion of EVs, particularly in the southern cities like Guangzhou and Shenzhen really stood out to me, and many of them (particularly from BYD) looked really, really nice. They seemed less prominent in the more northern part of the country (e.g. Shenyang, Beijing), but even there I'd say they're more common than in the UK.

It was a real eye opener

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I love about Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they’ve fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design to the car sounds.

So, the Vaporwave color pallete?

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Love this, thanks

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Do you have pictures? I would love to see.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd really like to see more of this. Do you know some of the names of these super cool manufacturers / designs?

[–] coffee@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the OP, but I live in China.

Check out for example the Xpeng (Xiao Peng) G6 and P7, the Qiantu K50, Zeekr 009, Lynk & Co. 03, Aiways U5 and the Dongfeng Mengshi M-Hero 917 (now if that's not HALO inspired, I don't know...).

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ah these are really cool, but I misread car and thought OP meant bikes. Americans will never be able to buy these sweet chinese cars.

I read in an article that chinese people who own these cars often sit in the back and have a driver. Is that true?

[–] coffee@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Oh sorry forgot to mention the drivers. In my experience this is not true at all. People who have drivers are usually senior executives, and they'd have company cars. Typically some top of the line Mercedes or BMW, sometimes a Porsche SUV. Electric cars (even the fancier ones) are rather affordable, and people here are very focused on their external impression.

[–] coffee@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Ah, what he mentioned were e-bikes, but those are not really on the fancy side. Search for 饿了么 scooter or 美团 scooter. They do food and grocery deliveries mostly. For private use, Niu scooters are the most popular in terms of design, but a ton of cheap stuff exists. Couldn't tell you about the brands, they are all very generic.

Electric motorbikes exist, but require a special license and are banned in most downtown areas, so they aren't really common. One brand I'm aware of is called Dayi Motors, they recently got certified for the European market, so chances are that those would become available elsewhere as well.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

[Comment content deleted by author because apparently I was spouting lies!]

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This brake dust problem is not true. Just another in a line of deceiving , sounds right but isn't, attacks on EVs from the fossil fuel industry and their allies. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2022/02/05/electric-cars-are-as-green-as-you-think-and-dont-produce-more-polluting-particles/?sh=528dfb522811

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is the tire problem, but 🤷‍♂️ That's more of a "Americans want to buy giant things" problem, and the battery designs that are seemingly just around the corner are lighter

https://news.yahoo.com/nasa-incredible-solid-state-battery-130000645.html

[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I mean… I drive my electric car like I stole it, which I wouldn’t really do with anything except a sports car. So the tire wear is definitely greater than if I did that in an ICE vehicle.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 5 points 1 year ago

I imagine electric cars would generate less brake dust due to their use of regenerative braking.

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Electric cars use their brakes tremendously less than ICE ones.

What I love about Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they’ve fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design

I actually think Chinese EVs are quite ugly.