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[–] DPUGT2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I am not very sympathetic to the anti-capitalist rhetoric I see on this site. But if those people wished to persuade me that maybe they're not all wrong, they might concentrate on issues like "space billboards". Like, wtf. Had to click just to make sure it wasn't an Onion article.

[–] SloppilyFloss@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

While things like "space billboards" would be a good thing to talk about when it comes to anti-capitalism, it's also a little too obvious for it be primary area of focus. I don't think it takes much convincing for most people to see that space billboards are a ridiculous idea. Sure, the prospect is scary, but the truly horrific parts of capital propagate themselves through capillary pathways between people and others and people and the material world. Thus, they'll be largely invisible and require an understanding that goes beyond "space billboards are bad" to instead asking, "what are the processes capital goes through that lead to the possibility of space billboards' existence?"

Basically, "space billboards are bad" is too narrow an idea to focus on if we want to convince people to become socialist. It's still a good idea to bring it into other discussions, though, as an example alongside other things.

[–] DPUGT2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While things like “space billboards” would be a good thing to talk about when it comes to anti-capitalism, it’s also a little too obvious for it be primary area of focus.

Possibly. But I've got to tell you that this is a big deal, this and things like it, and shows a far greater overlap of interest for most people.

Definitely beats the "the CIA is just making up lies about glorious China and the Uyghur region!" I find elsewhere.

Basically, “space billboards are bad” is too narrow an idea to focus on if we want to convince people to become socialist.

If you say so. I guess when your enemy makes mistakes, you should quit pointing those out. And when I say "you", I mean me.

[–] SloppilyFloss@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

If you say so. I guess when your enemy makes mistakes, you should quit pointing those out. And when I say “you”, I mean me.

Nah you should definitely point out space billboards, but pointing them out isn't enough to formulate a useful political program, basically. And you shouldn't point it out at the expense of the more "micro"-horrors of capital.