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This is shameless self-promotion, but part of a working theory I have that Mastodon users have more to offer Lemmy than your average Reddit user. See my other post about it here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2174573

TLDR: Mastodon users are inherently active posters and already understand federation. Also there are MILLIONS of them.

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[โ€“] sab@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin is pretty good for this. Every magazine has two tabs: one for microblogs, and one for threads. The administrator of the magazine can choose relevant hashtags, and all federated posts from the fediverse containing the hashtags will show up in the microblog section. People end up in kbin communities just by making themselves discoverable with hashtags, they don't even need to know what kbin is.

There are, as far as I can tell, two problems:

  1. There's no combined view showing both posts and microblog. As a consequence, the microblog is often neglected.
  2. Federation doesn't work well - you only see these posts if you're viewing it from the same kbin instance as the one you're visiting from. In effect it's basically only useful for kbin.social at the moment.

Still, both of these things seem like they could be resolved, and it's a very neat solution. :)

[โ€“] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a neat solution, but I suspect, in the end, it kinda misses the broader point. From kbin, it may seem like a neat or good solution, but from mastodon magazines and communities, whether from kbin or lemmy, are equally opaque rather unusable entitles. Kbin's solution works for filling up feeds on kbin. And, if the whole fediverse worked the way kbin works, it might be awesome!

But, it doesn't, and so mastodon users still aren't actually interacting with the conversations going on in communities and magazines, except for the relatively rare occasions that they make a top-level post or actually follow a community. Getting mastodon users off of mastodon and into our communities/magazines is what matters here (AFAIU). Their number and "fedi-readiness" make this a valuable goal. But also a potentially important one so that mastodon users learn that there's more outside of their somewhat brutalist platform design and the idea of more complex and rich fediverse interactions becomes more normalised.

Broadly, I suspect the way forward will be having client apps that bring together various platform structures while the devs of each platform can focus on their platform without having to reinvent everything everytime they make a new platform or feature.