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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/24889

[Disclaimer: Lemmy newb here]

There are currently 3 Rust communities across 3 instances: programming.dev, lemmyrs.org and this one (lemmy.ml). I know it's still very early for the migration from /r/rust, but it would split the community if there are so many options and nobody knows which is the "right" one. Currently this community has the most subscribers, but it would make sense if the Rust community finds its new home in one of the other instances.

  • lemmyrs.org seems like the logical solution if instance-wide rules are paramount and "non-negotiable"
  • personally I would love a programming-centric instance and programming.dev seems like a good way. Rust is not the only language I'm actively using (unfortunately :)). Maybe there can be community-specific rules that "enforce" the Rust CoC and the Rust community can find a home there?

Either way, the current situation has the most negative impact.

Thoughts?

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[–] Aloso@lemmyrs.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'd like for the r/rust community to completely migrate to lemmy, and for the r/rust moderators to become moderators of the chosen lemmy instance.

I don't care which instance it will be, although I do like the idea of the Rust community being fully self-sufficient and self-governed by hosting our own instance (but still being interoperable with others). The main downside seems to be that people who are active in multiple communities will need multiple accounts, and creating an account requires

  • a unique username (too bad if the name you use on another instance is already taken here)
  • a password you need to save in your password manager
  • approval by the instance owners/moderators, which makes this not only tedious, but also slow

And if you use a mobile app as well as the web app, you need to login twice after the account was approved.

On another note: The lemmyrs.org instance currently has several "communities", which are more like categories. They might be a substitute for Reddit flairs, which should allow people to filter what they see on their Reddit homepage. However, Lemmy doesn't support flairs, and on r/rust they weren't actually used that much. Most people didn't set a flair when posting something, which kind of defeated the purpose. I think we should come up with a proper solution for this at some point.

[–] danyel@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

Actually you don't need multiple accounts, you only need one in a specific instance and can interact with other instances (My account is registered at programming.dev).

The UX is extremely wonky and I had to look it up, but you can go to the search in the top right of your instance's main page (not the "communities" subpage) and search for communities and filter by "Communities" in the top left

[–] lightsecond@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The rust instance can federate with others so users can use the same account everywhere. The OP has an account on programmy.dev, you have one on lemmyrs.org, and I have mine on lemmy.world and yet we are all having a conversation on this thread without issues.

Owning the instance gives admin permissions to whomever is running the server but also the headache of maintaining uptime. If we move this community to programming.dev, the rust community would be “tenants” on a common instance. This option would be a no-brainer for smaller language communities (where my brainfuck enthusiasts at?), but if rust community decides to completely move to Lemmy, it might make sense to have a separate instance.

In terms of raw scaling for Lemmy and pure efficiency, AFAIK, fewer large instances is better than lots of smaller instances that federate with each other.

But the question is less about efficiency and more about trust. I’d rather have this community on programming.dev (first choice) or lemmyrs.org (equally great except for the fragmentation) depending on which admin the community is more comfortable with.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I’d like for the r/rust community to completely migrate to lemmy, and for the r/rust moderators to become moderators of the chosen lemmy instance.

If the /r/rust moderators join programming.dev I will immediately make them mods of !rust@programming.dev!