Ah, so you want newer examples? Fine. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and now Pakistan in Asia, Libya in Africa, Brasil and Bolivia in South America. All in the last twenty years or so.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Iraq is a fair point. The rest are weak sauce as fuck for a variety of reasons that I'll not trouble myself to enumerate.

That said, I myself was never onboard with the US invasion of Iraq or our long time presence in Afghanistan. They were both bullshit and never would have happened had it been up to me.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The rest are weak sauce as fuck for a variety of reasons …

The invasions may have been half-hearted failures, but they still caused enormous suffering. And the Libyan invasion did not fail if I remember correctly.

That said, I myself was never onboard with the US invasion of Iraq or our long time presence in Afghanistan.

I was explaining why a lot of countries would see NATO as the biggest threat. For this, what matters is what NATO governments do. What the people of NATO countries think or do is, while important from a moral point of view, unlikely to be reflected in foreign policy.