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Google's AI-driven Search Generative Experience have been generating results that are downright weird and evil, ie slavery's positives.

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[–] Bjornir@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slavery is not good for the economy... Think about it, you have a good part of your population that are providing free labour, sure, but they aren't consumers. Consumption is between 50 and 80% of GDP for developed countries, so if you have half your population as slave you loose between 20% and 35% of your GDP (they still have to eat so you don't loose a 100% of their consumption).

That also means less revenue in taxes, more unemployed for non slaves because they have to compete with free labour.

Slaves don't order on Amazon, go on vacation, go to the movies, go to restaurant etc etc That's really bad for the economy.

[–] L_Acacia@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Look at the Saudi, China or the UAE, it's still a pretty efficient way to boost your economy. People don't need to be consumer if this isn't what your country needs.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China has slavery? Also Saudi Arabia and the UAE import slaves, which is better for the economy than those people not being there at all but worse than them being regular workers.

[–] L_Acacia@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Muslim and christian minorities are forced to work in camps to "re-educate" them to be good chinese citizen.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah fair enough.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

True consumers are only 1 pillar of gdp.

[–] Bjornir@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are very specifics examples, with two of the biggest oil producers, and the factory of the world. Thus their whole economies is based on export, so internal consumption isn't important.

Moreover what proof do you have their economies wouldn't be in a better shape if they didn't exploit some population but made them citizen with purchasing power?

[–] L_Acacia@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2/3 of the people living in the Saudi Emirate are immigrants whose passports have been confiscated, they work in factory, construction sites, oil pit, and all other kind of manual jobs. Meanwhile the Saudi citizens occupy all the well paid job that require education, immigrants can't apply to those. If they didn't use forced labor, there simply wouldn't be enough people in the country to occupy all the jobs. Their economy could not be as good as it is right now.

[–] Bjornir@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Because their GDP comes from exporting a very rare and valuable natural resource. This is a rare case in the world, and not the one I was talking about.

Plus who's to say they wouldn't have a better economy if those exploited people could consume more?