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[โ€“] relay@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If true, cool, but I don't think that is convincing to anyone that disagrees in the slightest.

You can talk about his accomplishments of tactically industrializing the agrarian country to an industrial power quickly to eliminate the nazi threat, which is more punchy than

"people talk shit about me now, but wait a few generations and they'll say i was right"

[โ€“] birdcat@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean yea. But did you ever talk to an actual liberal irl? I once got called crazy (by multiple people in a group ๐Ÿ˜ฅ) for saying that without Stalin Hitler would have won the war.

But look who agrees with you ๐Ÿ˜Š

As Chuev records, Molotov stated that he was "not interested in who said what and where, who spat on what...Lenin didn't write memoirs, nor did Stalin [...] I write about socialism -- what it is and, as peasants say, 'what we need it for.'

[โ€“] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Much like capitalists don't make goods, Stalin didn't win a war. Great man theory is lib shit.

[โ€“] birdcat@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Sharp dialectics you picked up there, be careful to not cut yourself with it, no one said ww2 was just Stalin and Hitler engaging in a fistfight. But if it pleases you, here is a less offensive version: without [nameless non-great individual who would have done what Stalin did] Hitler would have won the war.