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I think this decentralization and federation is what web3 is all about, without all the corporations calling everything to do with monkey pixel art that costs a million dollars "web3"

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[โ€“] problematicconsumer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think you don't understand value proposition of web 3. Aside from financial applications, web 3(if realized properly) gives you certainty and even a better ux. Imagine you have a single account, secured and truly decentralized (no one will be able to delete or manipulate your account) you can easily signup in any web 3 site/app and start using it, ideally you content, data or whatever You're generating in this platform is stored on a Blockchain, immutable for ever. No one can censor you! You don't have to trust goodwill of anyone, everything will just work!

[โ€“] sotolf@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think no censoring is a good thing, opens for a LOT of harassment.

[โ€“] problematicconsumer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I totally get your point. but I feel like thinking that censoring is OK comes from the fact that most of people here have not ever experienced authoritarian regimes or been on the other side(getting censored) In a web 3 platform your content is always there but it doesn't mean that we all can see it! You can opt-in to use some kind of moderated ui that only shows appropriate content. Isn't this the same? No cause I'm free to express myself and people willing can follow my thoughts and if you find it inappropriate you're also free to ignore me. If you're interested I can share examples of these censorships that leads to people getting killed

Edit: grammar

[โ€“] sotolf@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a huge difference between moderation of posts on a platform and an authoritarian regime.... That's a long stretch, having a platform deleting something you posted that doesn't fit in, or is hatefull is something completely different from having an authoritarian regime going against you, if you have an authoritan regime then having something on a blockchain that can't be deleted is an extremely bad idea as well, that's another problem with that that I didn't see before, so thanks for that at least.

[โ€“] problematicconsumer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not a stretch. Let me give you a recent example. In past few months people in Iran started protesting against regime(it's mostly known as Woman Life Freedom, you can search for it online) To begin with there's no such thing as free internet in Iran but people are used to ways to circumvent it(Proxy/VPN) but guess what? Instagram the most popular social media in iran decides that videos from the protests where actual people are getting shot on the street is "violent" and "harmful" and decides to remove them(not just shootings, even those where people were simply chanting)! How the hell are people supposed to tell the world what's going on there? It's not just Instagram it's almost all of these social media(which Iranian people don't really know of or use) How would web 3 solve this? Of course it's not magical and it's not going to solve this completely but at least these people would have chance to share what's going on There are hundreds of such events year Also blockchain is pseudonymous and isn't necessarily tied to a person may I ask what's your problem with web 3? What makes you hate it so much?

[โ€“] sotolf@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are places where they can, or else I would have not known about it, and I do, so there is obviously something. I also know about things that happen in china that that government doesn't want us to know, because people I have interacted with who are from there have been sharing stuff.

I don't know where you get this "hate" from, there is no reason to put words in my mouth as I never said I hate it, I just disagree that it's a good idea. But that you are already grabbing for disingenous tactics like that really tells me enough about you, so that's the end of the discussion for me.

[โ€“] problematicconsumer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand your first sentence but it's ok i guess we both have our values Also probably hate wasn't right word to use you're right Have a nice day

[โ€“] sotolf@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it's something used to start makinga discussion sour, you put words in my mouth that I never said, it's not that you used the wrong word, you decided you didn't like what I said and wanted to shut me down, or should we say... censor my opinion.

Wow now that's a stretch you're putting thoughts in my mind lol! English is not my native language(I'd like to think I'm good with it though) Anyways if you can come to conclusions about people so quickly that says enough about you I've just used word "hate" and you're making such drama.

[โ€“] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

My brother in bucatini, we're going to get an authoritarian regime if right-wing misinformation is allowed to spread unchecked!

[โ€“] CuriousOtter@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've dreamed for years about a decentralized single sign-in method. Some of the worst security issues derive from using passwords, usernames, emails, etc. Two factor authentication is ultimately just a band-aid fix for now. I truly think the killer usecase of web3 will be the ux. I'm glad that there's someone else that shares this conviction.

While signing up for Lemmy, I found myself wishing for a web3 sign-in method. Federation is great, but there are so many servers and to have an account on each would be silly. Instead of crossing the server boundary on an account from your home server, why not just have a native account on each, connected by your decentralized web3 sign-in.

Exactly! Fortunately there are some great devs working on generalized web 3 sign in(like SpruceID) and we have some experiments with blockchain based social media(like Lens protocol) These are by no means perfect but can paint a picture of what's actually possible if we were to differenciate some bad actors using this new technology to scam people from actual underlying tech

Down votes as expected, would appreciate some actual reasoning from anyone against what I've said