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Quite frankly, the term liberal refers to Democrats and Republicans not Conservatives and Centralists. I'm a Centralist and its sometimes weird when people outright call me a liberal. I don't pay attention it though.
Centralist?
neutral. Not left or right. Well..kinda right..
I would recommend actually learning about what you support. You don't seem overtly hostile, but remember you are on the same end of the scale with people who have decided that my ethnic group has no right to exist.
You might say "Those guys are evil! I would never support that!" You don't need to support it directly, anyone who is even complacent is supporting those people.
That's just one out hundreds of possible problems with being a "Centralist". They simply don't exist. You have those fighting oppression, and those oppressing. Being neutral means you have picked your side.
wait...what is your ethic group? (btw, I don't discrimate cuz I'm not racist -_-)
Honestly, it doesn't even fully matter. I could be Jewish, Romani, Slavic, Black. Other then ethnic groups, I could be handicapped, gay, Catholic, elderly, poor, chronically ill, and so on.
It doesn't matter, because all those groups and many more deserve extermination, slavery, to be experimented on, starvation, and death.
I hope you understand the point I am trying to make. But my personal ethnic group is Slavic. We were labelled as little better then rats, abominations, and racially unfit to exist as a people. We needed to be exterminated so that our land could be taken and used properly for expanding the Aryan race in "General Plan Ost". We were an disease, not people to them.
There are only those who support the oppressed, and those that support the oppressor. You cannot be both. Make your choice.
Oh. I like slavic music. You guys are cool tbh.
Those on the right don’t think so at all.
Tina lesser degree, neither do liberals as they despise the Bolshevik Revolution.
The choice is yours. Who do you want to associate with?
Well, um...the Bolshevik Revolution on the other hand....thats kinda....another matter.....idk...i'm not quite right...not quite democrat or republican, so i tend to stay at the border of things..
you should read about it before you write it off. if you've never heard the story, October by China Mieville is very easy to read and will show you what people were thinking and feeling as it happens. as for what came next, I recommend Blackshirts and Reds by Parenti.
what do you mean you stay at the border of things something is either right or it isn't why are you just believing what you think is the middle of other people's beliefs
Can you please tell me what the actual difference is between Democrats and Republicans (besides Dems being less overtly hateful)
and the other ethnicities mentioned...
it's also non-ethnic groups. there's a genocide of my people (trans) underway across much of the US and the centrist position is that it's good because we're all pedophiles. it's even seeping into the progressive wings of the democratic party.
Do you mean centrist by chance? Centralist means like central control or organization.
yes
Ah okay!
Fwiw you may get some pushback on Centrism here, because a lot of us see politics differently than simply a matter identities and ideals, like most Americans seem to. We're more interested in who owns what and who has power, more along the lines of classical economists like Adam Smith and Marx.
For example there's no central point between a master and an enslaved person (the material reality), their material interests are mutually contradictory. Similarly, we don't think there's any Centrism to be found between working people and elites, at least no real one. What's good for them is bad for us, and vise versa.
Ah I see. Well, to me, I tend to stay neutral when I am confused about something or if I'm used to something. Western influcened things are just so common. I hope you can understand that its hard for me, an American born and raised teenager to understand this whole rack of new information that goes against everything I've ever known.
I completely understand! It's good to stay neutral about things you aren't sure about, I respect that.
You bring up a good point, about western influenced things being dominant. We all start off with some core assumptions that are taught to us by the society we grow up in. It's good to examine those assumptions at some point, because they may be limiting. If you happen to have any questions, feel free to ask!