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[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The British might have done genocide the most the good ol' fashioned way, but I really think at least in per-capita terms the US will be recognized in future history books as the worst. They mastered the art of genocide to the point that we don't even think of them as responsible for all the deaths they cause.

Do we MLs even call what happened in Iraq a genocide? I mean, millions of civilians died at the hands of the US. Not only places we directly invade but what about everywhere we strangle economically, where we install fascist dictators, at that point I feel like the death and destruction outweighs the Brits by a magnitude.

The British imperialists bowed out and chose to live in their "garden" peacefully while the Americans inherited their death machine and revolutionized it with Nazi inspiration. We modernized it and mastered the craft of being so purely evil and yet in such a way that most people wouldn't associate the US with genocide save perhaps that of the Native Americans (arguably another British genocide as well).

It's important to remember that mass killing =/= genocide. Yes, the Iraq Invasion led to mass destruction, chaos, and death, but what matters in genocide is intent. It was not with the intent to destroy Arab Iraqis as a social group, hence it was not genocide. Something can only be genocide if there was intent or, alternatively, that the actions taken would knowlingly deprive a social group of the conditions for life to the point where the social group would be destroyed (e.g., orchestrated famines, ontological destruction).

The US has plenty of other genocides to its name on its own continent, though, don't worry!

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The difference between US atrocities and every other country on Earth is that we never call them genocides, we never let anyone call them genocides. The War in Iraq was simply a war...where millions of innocent people were killed or tortured.

[–] Farman@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Who knows how many people died on india durin colonial rule. They were particularly brutal over there.