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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As an outsider I'm always amazed at that "land of the free" that is insistent on censoring stuff, and "home of the brave" that will run through the mud someone standing for freedom and having principles.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once you realize that there are actually two Americas occupying the same geographic space, then everything makes more sense.

[–] Agent_of_Kayos@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only two? I thought we were more divided than that by now

[–] BiNonBi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I honestly like the number eleven for the division in the US. There's even a nice map.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm always amazed that people seem to think the USA is a monolith.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why, because I said something is happening in the USA, you inferred that I said it's happening everywhere in it, at all time? What amaze me is people that can derive immediate generalization from a single statement.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here's what you actually said:

As an outsider I’m always amazed at that “land of the free” that is insistent on censoring stuff, and “home of the brave” that will run through the mud someone standing for freedom and having principles.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. I know. I was there. Are you implying that none of these things I said happened in the USA happened in the USA? Because, they did happen, and it was there. Kind of like what I said and you helpfully quoted.

My turn. Here's what you actually said:

I'm always amazed that people seem to think the USA is a monolith.

Feel free to point where I said the USA is a monolith. Because while I did say that these horrible thing did happen in the USA, and that the USA is known to be "land of the free, home of the brave", at no point I said, implied, or subtly hinted at that this was representative of the USA as a whole.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your phrasing does in fact imply that it's commonplace and widespread. For example:

that “land of the free” that

and

[that] “home of the brave” that

These phrasings can only refer to the country as a whole.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Your interpretation is yours, and yours only, don't push it onto others.