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No, burning some paper is far from the most extreme form of provocation.
If someone, or some group, wants to commit violence as a result of burning a single book, then they have demonstrated that they have no place in the modern world; which was likely the point of said burning.
If someone, or some group, wants to constantly provoke a certain religion as a result of cultural racism, then they have demonstrated that they have no place in the modern world
Fixed it for you, you´re welcome :)
No. If you get provoked too easily, and respond violently, you are the asshole.
Terrorism as a response to burning some paper is a good example.
They do not get provoked particularly easily - on the contrary! You omit that the particular book that the hateful inciters are burning publicly on a weekly basis now is not "some paper" but the most holy item in the world for a lot of people. So burning it obviously equals incitement. I can´t believe you really don´t understand these trivial things?!
But it's just paper to me. They don't get to enforce onto me what is and isn't sacred. That's the point of burning it. I can't believe you don't understand this trivial thing.
They don´t. You are free to burn any books you want privately, you can heat your home with Qur'ans if you choose to and nothing will happen. Just don´t do it publicly to intentionally incite hate and violence - pretty simple isn't it?
Oh and by the way, Islamist terrorism is in the first place a response to decades of fossil-colonialism and exploitation of the Muslim world by the imperialist west. You are aware where the energy and plastic for our comfortable life comes from right? Right?
In my religion, tobacco is sacred. Anyone who is smoking cigarettes are provoking violence.
Idiotic.
Interesting, what particular religion would that be?
MadeTheFuckUpism. It's exactly as true as Islam.
Why does the name of the religion matter here?
What if I want to prove to them that the laws they try to enforce on others don't effect me? Burning some paper seems like the most harmless way to make that point.
Honestly? Who tried to enforce their laws on you and how? Please share the story with us and also let us know how burning a Quran saved you from that. Also, burning holy books incites violence so obviously it is anything else but harmless and you and the Quran burners know it, it´s the real reason why they do it and probably why you defend it. the sole reason they do it is to fuel hate and violence between cultures. Stop pretending it´s about your freedom.
Honestly? You, right now, telling me I can't publicly burn the Quran.
I don´t care at all personally since I have been an atheist my whole life. I would dislike the hate and violence that would probably be ignited by your actions though.
See, that's just it. That right there. Would me burning some paper be to blame for the violence, or would the other parties willingness to commit violence over burning paper be to blame?
I think you're placing your blame wrong.
That violence against living beings is almost generally several magnitudes worse than violence against objects should be obvious to every sane person, right? For me this is not about placing blame on either side. Blame is a nonconstructive concept and often unfitting in my opinion. The article is about public Quran burnings and so I commented on that and not on something else - why that triggered so many users into wildly projecting weird bs on me evades me, I can only assume they have a totally black/white worldview without any shades of grey ...
Make up your mind. Live in the past with your old ideas, hate , make believe stories and book. Or join the free modern world
I am an atheist, like my parents and grandparents were. Project much?
If you are talking about the proto-fascist, failed state, shithole country USA - no fucking way man, may the flying spaghetti monster protect me from ever moving there lol