EDIT: I just wanted to add an edit and say I really appreciate how active this post got. I was kind of expecting to get no responses, but instead I'm getting an incredibly detailed discussion with a wide range of viewpoints and considerations that I wouldn't have otherwise thought of. You guys rock! Lemmy rocks!
Hey, all
I need help identifying a job title that would best match my current job responsibilities. For reference, I work at a smaller org that just had a compensation study done and my position was marked as needing no change. My supervisor was angry with that outcome and found out that it is because my actual Job Title is not an industry standard, so the company that did the study had trouble matching it up. My supervisor believes I should be making a fair chunk more than I make, as I am the sole person in my position and the work I do keeps the org running in all ways.
So, my supervisor is starting the process to reclassify me into new position and wants to make sure the title and responsibilities match up in a way that are recognizable on a resume to other potential employers. I've done some initial research and I believe that "Senior DevOps Engineer" or a flat "Senior Software Engineer" would probably be the best match.
A list of my responsibilities are:
- I investigate, troubleshoot, code, schedule, and deploy new custom programming releases to our ERP software. It's a delivered ERP software that has the ability to create, package, and deploy custom coding in order to add functionality that the org needs but the delivered solution does not support. Our org is especially heavily customized - we have well over 200 different customization's that I support
- I code, deploy, and support data integrations with third party vendors via SFTP, HTTP API, or other options (although most of the integrations come down to either pulling data from our system to push to an SFTP server or an API).
- I build and deploy custom applications on an ad hoc basis to fill needs by our org. An example of this would be that earlier this year we found out that the budget entry portion of our ERP software wasn't available as it used a user interface that had reached end-of-life and we needed a way for departments to enter their budgets for the upcoming FY to buy time until we could get the proper user interface up and running. I was able to build a web application that could fulfill the requirements and coordinated with our systems administration team to get a server set up with certs, a proper domain name, and the like.
- I act as a general administrator for our ERP software, providing support and guidance on specific functions that members of our Org use as well as backing up our actual ERP Technical Administrator in maintenance tasks if he is sick or out.
- I support the deployment of data from our transactional ERP system to a reporting database and our reporting software. This is largely automated and works without interference. If new data is needed, I go in and make the necessary changes to include the new data in the reporting database.
- We don't currently have any other developers, but my boss and I have started pushing to expand our slate as other members of our team retire. If we ever do get more developers, it will be my responsibility to train them and coordinate their tasks.
In general, I feel like I identify more as a Senior Software Engineer. I like the programming work more and, if I ever left this current org, it's the job I would go for. However, for the sake of actually matching the position, I feel like the wide range of development, administrative, and automation duties, that I am more doing the job of a DevOps Engineer.
I've done a fair amount of reading, but I wanted to get the opinions of some peers and see if you all had any insights or opinions
Don't put yourself into the DevOps category if you can help it. In the context of hiring / hr, DevOps is a marketing term with little to no actual meaning. As it goes with marketing terms, they iterate with the times and often rather quickly. If FAANG publishes a blog post about "stop doing DevOps, do X" today, 90% of DevOps positions will disappear from the market tomorrow.
Software Engineer is a very generic role that will serve you for longer, especially if your company puts a lot of stock into titles, as it seams like they do. Also, from my experience, Software Engineers get paid more.
That was something I was worried about. It's a title I hear a lot about, but I don't actually know that much about it. This is very helpful information.
Thank you for your insight!
The problem is that DevOps is not really a title or a role, its a mindset. It can be summarized as "You build it, you run it" and is supposed to solve the age old problem that arises from the disconnect of developers and sysadmins, where developers just hand over code to the admins without ever having given much thought about how to run it reliably (aka. "You go figure that out, not my problem.") and the admins being super protective of their painstakingly curated servers and databases that of course you as a developer obviously cannot have any access to whatsoever and of course your app has to work with the 10year old java version that ships with RHEL. The consequence was basically a lot of grief on all sides and huge waste of productivity.
The idea of DevOps is that these two responsibilities merge into on. That means that the team responsible for building the software also needs to take care of how to test it, how to build it, how to deploy it, how to monitor it, how to scale it, how to debug it, etc. This is now mainly incorporated into the software developer / "full stack" role.
The confusing part is, when you look at job postings, the DevOps engineer is often described as "working closely with" or "supporting / assisting" the development team. This goes pretty much against the principle of having the development team having responsibility for their own work. Instead, it's often just a re-branding of the old role with the title du jour. It also often details the pecking order, namely devops being support for developers.
Given that, if a company offers a DevOps position, you should spend some time finding out what that actually means for you, your work and your career. More often than not, it may put you in a box that only comes with restrictions for not obvious benefit.
Oh I see.
So, in theory, dev ops could apply to what I'm doing (just by way of being the only person responsible for building, testing, deploying, monitoring, debugging) - but, in reality, that isn't often the case and it would be best to avoid putting myself in that box? Am I understanding that right?
Yes, that pretty much my point :)
Thank you!
I will see about sticking with the Software Engineer line of titles (I'm discussing whether or not calling myself a 'Senior' would be a good choice with some other commenters). It makes more sense and my supervisor had mentioned that she wants the best title that could represent my skills, responsibilities, and desired future jobs on a resume.
Well, I do have an opinion on that as well.
Senior is a nontransferable honorific, as in: it does not translate between organizations. I have had people who were senior in their old organization demoted to junior (aka. they mostly quit) because they could not write a line of code without internet or IDE to save their life, and I have had people come in as junior even though their started programming when they were 12 and could programm circles around most seniors, buy HR decided they had "no experience" after collage (which, in my opinion, boils down to exploitation of cheap labor). I also met a guy who was an good developer but at his company it was a formal requirement to give a talk to advance to senior. Even though he had 15 years of experience at that company non the less, he could never advance because he was afraid of public speaking.
So seniority is at least as much politics as it is skill or responsibility. In my experience, it boils down to whether or not you feel you deserve it. If the answer is yes, then you should see that you get it and that you are treated (paid) accordingly.
I see! I definitely feel that Senior would be applicable for this given position. All of my hang ups were in thinking there was a more defined requirement to be a "Senior". Between you and my discussions with others, I've learned to not worry about that and instead focus more on my knowledge-level and my direct contribution to the Org - both of which I would say are appropriate in this environment.
Yeah, I tend to agree, the responsibility should definitely warent it.
Good luck with the whole thing, I hope you get a decent bump out of it :)
Thank you! I appreciate your help