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[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The people pointing out both sides have dogshit covid policy are not the ones not being apathetic. It's the liberals who all went back to brunch and demanded everything re-open.

[–] RustyVenture@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Gaslighting is telling people that Covid isn’t a threat even though you know it’s not and you deliberately cooked the books to sell that delusion. Gaslighting is telling people you’re supposed to be responsible for governing that a vaccine that was never shown to stop the spread of a disease does, in fact, do that. Gaslighting is telling people that you must personally assess your own risk to a collective, public health crisis with the paltry tools that have been provided, then strip away or sabotage every last one of those tools so they cannot provide even a sliver of usefulness to anyone but the most bad faith interpretations.

All of these things are things both Amerikkka’s fascist wing and liberal, fascist-enabling wing have done and are currently doing (if they’re not outright ignoring it). To anyone with a pulse, there is no meaningful difference, and indeed they are so often intertwined.

Also, Marx was based.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

You're gaslighting. His post was bookended with political critiques on how fascism and liberalism are the same thing, with a poor attempt to use COVID to prove his point.

Also, he's a Marxist, a political ideology so successful, it's produced countless fascist regimes.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

You're gaslighting

Don't use technical terms if you don't understand what they mean. It makes you look either ignorant or dishonest depending on your tone.

I'm gonna go with ignorant in this case.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're gaslighting.

I hate it here.

We were all having such a nice time.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

You're gaslighting.

he's a Marxist, a political ideology so successful, it's produced countless fascist regimes.

Ironic, you should probably space out your protests about gaslighting a bit from your own fabrication of history.

It was third-way anti-communists who were the the base of movements that turned into fascist governments and it was Marxists that famously liberated Europe from that fascism.

Regardless, liberals broadly have enforced covid policy that is extremely harmful to people with disabilities. That's essentially an admission that their right to participate in society is measured by their 'value', that dealing with a pandemic properly has to take a back seat to what's good for the economy.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am once again asking liberals to learn that 'fascist' isn't just a synonym for 'something I don't like.'

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i think one of the aspects of fascism that really freaks out liberals is that fascism is the return of the policies they (casually or explicitly) support overseas to their homes and applied to them and their neighbors. i was reading that post-colonial analysis excerpt about how hitler did to the core what "heroic" churchill and his predecessors had been doing to india and other peoples/nations for decades. libs avoid any material analysis of the core/periphery or fascism because the connections make it obvious libs have no trouble enjoying the fruits of evil done elsewhere to secure markets, but bringing those same methods of repression and control home is the unspeakably evil act of a madman.

the idea that their poorly-interrogated political project creates and necessitates the very monster they fear is too much to grapple with for some.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I don't know how you came to leftist politics, but it seems like a more enlightened road than I took. You give liberals way too much credit to attribute a kind of motivation that requires a functional knowledge of modern empire.

[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Hannah Arendt and her (quite literally) Nazi-loving ass have been a disaster for political discussion in the anglosphere

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Also, he's a Marxist, a political ideology so successful, it's produced countless fascist regimes.

Remind me who funded the Nazis before WW2 began and then rescued them at its end. Then remind me who was conquering Berlin while Hitler was committing suicide.