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[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 127 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If the allegations about the sexual topics are true (like managing the OnlyFans account and having to see other people's junk, being told to twerk for a coworker and getting asked about "how she liked to fuck") LTT is in some serious trouble.

No sponsor in their right mind wants to be associated with a bunch of grown men sexually assaulting their female coworkers. If this isn't cleared up totally and publically, LTT will lose a lot of sponsors and this can seriously hurt them.

When the employee handbook leaked a few months ago and this was mostly ignored by Linus but he made a rant about the company not needing unions because they're so great, that was already very suspicious to me. It seemed like just another hustle culture company trying to sweep things under the rug. Well, looks like it was not just a feeling...

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If the allegations about the sexual topics are true

There was Naomi Wu (still don't know 100% if we can trust her on that), and now there's Madison. So, if this is true, you can expect more people to speak up in the next days/weeks. If there are many creeps (Naomi Wu was directly incriminating Linus, Madison is apparently incriminating another manager), the facts will eventually come out. Let's just wait to see who speaks next. Let's not forget the "Innocent until proven guilty" part of the law. No matter how revolted I am, I don't want to start witch-hunting anyone, just on allegations.

No sponsor in their right mind wants to be associated with a bunch of grown men sexually assaulting their female coworkers.

This is the thing. LMG already lost a WHOLE LOT of value this week. Tim "Big bald mouth" Holowachuk already did a whole lot of damage with his undeserved dissing, was the straw that broke the camel's back and led Steve to respond to the dissing with months of meticulously noted facts, and that would have already been an "Oof" on itself. Without anything else. But then Linus "The Magnanimous" Sebastian decided to pitch in, and proudly dismiss most of the valid, rational criticism, while throwing, once more, some poor entrepreneurs who tried to have him feature their product under the bus, after having illegally sold their best performing product. That was even a bigger "Oof". At that point, Linus was already exposing himself as a liar, who acts in bad faith (nobody would seriously think this would coincidentally be the very first time he does such a thing!?) for business and clout. And then, to drive the nail fully in his coffin, Madison remarked this was the perfect opportunity for her to speak up, and be heard. I think she speaks the truth. Internet has taught me that anyone can be a liar (right, Linus?) and do anything for their own profit or clout, so I would really like to get confirmations on Madison's allegations; but I still tend to believe her more than not. It sounds legit.

[–] yt_deliveries@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

| part of the law.

We're not in a court of law here. Even then, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt", and that only applies to criminal matters. With civil matters the standard is "the preponderance of evidence."

Outside of court proceedings, the standard is completely arbitrary and has been since, well, forever.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's an entire world, outside of the U.S...

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but the same is true in all of it, innocent until proven guilty is a legal thing not a social thing because it rests on the fact that the case is being tried - if I called you a smelly snail then you went to your mom and said I called you a smelly snail you wouldn't expect her to say 'well we have to act like he didn't until it's been tried in a court of law...'

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for making me laugh :) (I didn't laugh at you, the snail example was pretty funny).

Yes, the innocent until proven guilty is a matter of legal affairs.

Yes, the public opinion isn't bound to such limitations. But that is only because the public opinion isn't supposed to have executive power.

Arguably, the Internet changed that. The public opinion now does have at least some executive power: before the internet, it was practically impossible for anyone to organize a coherent retaliation towards any entity; and that responsibility was entirely left to the official, governmental executive power.

Since social media enabled emergent social organization, coherent retaliation is absolutely possible, and is something the American "left" has been doing for a decade with the concept of "cancelling" people.

Now, as I posted elsewhere, the algorithms in place online are shaping the discourse, and aren't shaping it in a way that aims at social improvement, but at engagement maximization. Which, you know, anger and hate are the fastest route to.

The consequence of this is that the American "right" has duly noted what the "left" has been doing, learned from their concept, learned the tools, and is now apparently preparing their own version of "cancelling" people, which presumably involves the second amendment.

It is probably too late to remind everyone that "innocent until proven guilty" shall apply to any and all parties with executive power, however emergent; but I still think it's an important fact to highlight.

In case we can salvage anything from what our ancestors gave their blood and sweat for, and learn how to resolve conflict instead of giving in, having a major crisis; only after which we will begin pondering what needs to be done.

[–] JGrffn@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do think the Naomi Wu thing was mostly a misunderstanding taken to extremes due to fanbases toxicity (doubt she would've outright said Linus wanted her to suck his dick if the stans hadn't started harassing her, she basically jumped to all out offensiveness out of spite). This, however? Even if she was also being toxic in the workplace, it just means management had been so horrible that toxic behaviors developed with ease and would just spin out of control. This all sounds like they could just not adapt to becoming more corporate oriented fast enough, and the fact that Linus just recently stepped down as CEO is clear proof of this. He should've done that years ago.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Very possibly, I also take issues with creators that cheat on content quality using whatever loophole they find (eh Linus?), that's my reason for not liking her.

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I totally agree. Where can I find the leaked handbook?

Edit: Found it

[–] pwr22@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Pretty terrible deal compared to even the mandatory UK stuff. Our glorious hereditary not-dictator 🤴 will be greatly disappointed!

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Last Updated: January 1, 2021.

This is more than 2 years ago. I'd be nice to get a confirmation that this is the current version, given how much LMG grew over the last 2 years.

[–] tamethecoach@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

10 days is the legal minimum in Canada and most companies don't offer more than that unless you have lots of experience. My company caps at 15 days. So I say this is more of a Canada work culture problem than an LMG problem

[–] randomname01@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bro what the fuck. The legal minimum in Belgium is 20 days, and you also get 10 national holidays. 30+ days (not including those national holidays) isn’t exceptional. I can’t imagine only getting 10 days.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can imagine it.

Here in Belgium, first year of working and working 38 hours: 0 holidays except national holidays 😂

But yeah outside europe, holidays are abysmal. India, maylaysia, and China are even worse than the Americas in many cases as far as holiday and conditions.

[–] Gebruikersnaam@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Same here, most collective labour agreements offer ~25. Also, sick days aren't a thing.

[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Really? I've had friends in Canada who I used to vacation with, and none of them only had 2 weeks or 3 weeks as seniors.

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Me too. I think they have an actual HR team now that isn't just Yvonne.