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I thought lemmy was anti-censorship we may need a new alternative at this rate.

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[–] Timbo303@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They censored 3 piracy communities if you use the lemmy.world instance for your account. This is definitely censorship.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is definitely censorship

lmfao, you can literally access the content you're whining about not being able to access from like several dozen other free platforms, no one is censoring anything, you clown.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what exactly were they discussing that got them shut down? Because my money would be on discussions about breaking the law, coupled with you not knowing what "censorship" actually means.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's only illegal if you actually host pirated content, which is banned on c/piracy.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would apply to anyone who claims they are torrenting movies or tv shows, since you are literally hosting your portion of the files to every other torrent user. Why do you think on the reddit subs you weren't even supposed to talk about the type of content you were trying to download?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either way it's not an excuse to ban the whole thing.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It very much is a reason to shut them down. When you run a server you are free to allow all the illegal content you want -- see how that plays out when the cops come and confiscate all your hardware. However if that was the reason behind those groups getting shut down then the admin had every right to kill them, and it should have come as no surprise to anyone when it happened.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you run a server you are free to allow all the illegal content you want – see how that plays out when the cops come and confiscate all your hardware.

Again, that's only when you actually host illegal content. Just hosting discussion about piracy isn't enough for legal action.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

You might as well be saying that it's perfectly fine to host a discussion board about child porn if you're not actually hosting the pictures. And you would be completely wrong about that too. Keep in mind that in the US and several other countries, the operators of torrent link sites have gone to jail even if their site didn't actually host any content. So what makes you think that a discussion board talking about where to download illegal content would be exempt from the law? It's a slippery slope because you can talk about the torrent clients and such, but the moment you cross over into actually sharing specific information on how to break the law (where and how to download copyrighted content) then you yourself are now an accessory to committing a crime. And if the host of the server knows about this content and doesn't put a stop to it, then they are also accountable. In the case of reddit, they have a huge legal team and the admins of a channel might be able to skate away, but on lemmy every server host is on their own and directly responsible for the content their server provides. Sorry if you don't like it, but your feelings don't change the law.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Were those instances hosted on Lemmy.world?