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[–] ghosts@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is what the liberals want. Four more years of war.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's what the Kremlin and CCP want. They ruined their own countries now they're expanding.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Amazing how you just throw in China for no reason lol

[–] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

US's next war is with China. Read former Defense Sec Robert McNamara's memo of 1965.

There are three fronts to a long-run effort to contain China:

  • the Japan-Korea front

  • the India-Pakistan front; and

  • the Southeast Asia front

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah I know they're already manufacturing consent for it, but it's wild how random people latch on to it so easily.

[–] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All that the Big Brother needs to do is tell the people, there's a big bad enemy far away. He wants to destroy us. But if you support the Big Brother, he will protect you. That's the entire pitch. Rinse and repeat for every war.

Watch this clip from a year ago.

Most Americans can't put Ukraine on a map, but they want unlimited money to be funneled to the most corrupt country on the planet.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

And claim it is "ruined" lmao some of those people seriously look like posting from alternate dimension.

[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, we want Russia to unconditionally surrender right now. But since that's unrealistic, we want to provide Ukraine with the means to defend itself from a blatantly imperialist invasion by a fascist state.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're just throwing those terms around aren't you?

You don’t understand what imperialism means. US/EU capital is looting and exploiting the former socialist block and controlling it through western capitalist media, NGOs, military bases and coups. That’s imperialism. The Russians preventing Nazis from doing ethnic cleansing along their border and demanding not to be threatened with a gun to the head is not imperialism.

And if you think Russia is fascist (I don't think it is, but reasonable people might disagree), what do you think about Ukraine? The Ukrainian state funds and arms Banderite groups and promotes Banderite ideology, which is a straight up fascist, racist, ethnonationalist, Neo-Nazi ideology. Those people think Russians are Mongol Asiatic Untermenschen, and the Ukrainian state promotes that. The Russian government does not promote this sort of ethnonationalism.

[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 3 points 1 year ago

Wow, you really did swallow the official Russian stance. I bet you'd also have believed that Poland attacked that German radio station in 1939. Repeat after me: Russia has invaded Ukraine because the Russian government does not consider Ukraine to be a legitimate nation. But don't take my word for it, read Putin's essay on the matter. It just takes a minimum amount of actual reflection to see that that's the real reason for the invasion.