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[–] Lun0tic@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most of Nintendo's high-end franchises have been able to "evolve" except for Pokemon. Even the proven -to-always-work ones have taken great steps forward. For a franchise based on an RPG that honestly has plenty to pull from it's resistant to make itself better. The progression of a pokemon game becomes to expected and bland and to some extent it stops making sense in its own world. People have been making suggestions for years now and it's pathetic they refuse to listen to it's base. Scarlett and Violet should have been it's death but people still bought into it so again, it works for sales so why would they need to add in extra resources? Once I picked up on the gimmicks (z-power and gigantamax) I knew it was getting ridiculous. The game just straight up relies on predictable concepts of grinding and higher levels encounters through progression yet it tries to pass itself off as openworld and non linear when you have orher games who clearly do it better. If a pokemon game held it's same concepts and was called somethings else like Master Catcher or Battle Critters it wouldn't even be considered as "great" as it is. You can't say the same for the other franchises.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

It's why all the side games made by other groups are often so much better than the mainline games, despite having a far smaller budget to work with. Because they actually try to do new and innovating things with the franchise.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God mega evolutions we're such a great addition in X/Y. Z moves were lame and I haven't played a new Pokemon game since alpha Sapphire. Like yeah it's Pokemon but it just feels like a product at this point. I know the point is to make money but maybe they should take a break. Pokemon games almost died in black and white because they haven't changed.

[–] Lun0tic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You're right that mega evolutions were great in that it gave certain Pokemon a second chance to be useful however even that took a wrong turn when they mainly focused all mega evolutions to to all the popular Pokemon who were already great to begin with. On top of that, it did continue forward which I feel would have been another opportunity to give those not-so-great pokemon that chance.

[–] BoobiesUnite@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

yeah i have enjoyed the new games but none of them have really been able to capture the magic of the old ones. dexit also didnt help.

somehow collecting all the pokemon felt more fun in the old games? i mean it was always a chore to do, but i remember being much more excited finding a rare pokemon in the older games than the new ones haha