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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (37 children)

Weird how magic and mystery stops being magic when scientists have words for it.

One day we'll discover the afterlife, but we'll just call them "Post-Human Conciousness Wells" or something, and insist it totally isn't the same thing as that ancient superstition.

Cmon, you wanna tell me the world is purely material when our math literally uses imaginary numbers to make sense of things?

[–] walkercricket@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Math is a tool of the mind to describe our world, imaginary numbers is only a extension of that tool to allow us to go beyond what mathematical logic prevents us to do, while still getting in the end a real number. Math, despite being powerful, is a flawed tool, so getting around its flaws by creating things like imaginary numbers isn't absurd and doesn't make the result any less real at the end.

On the other hand, I don't think calling everything we don't understand "magic" or the new trending words "supernatural" and "a miracle" and give god or anything else (like karma) credit for it would be more clever. Back then, we didn't understood the concept of thunder and interpreted it as god's wrath. Now, we understand it's a transmission of electricity from the negatively charged clouds to the neutral ground through ionized particles in the air. I don't think that scientists now, despite referring to the same phenomena, are talking about the same thing as we did a long time ago.

So no, no scientist will discover the afterlife "but we'll just call them "Post-Human Conciousness Wells" or something, and insist it totally isn't the same thing as that ancient superstition." as it won't be.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Quantum mechanics, as far as we know, requires imaginary numbers.

[–] dyen49k@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nope, they're just one mathematical construct out of many (e.g. 2D vector calculus or geometric algebra), and they just happened to stick

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Nope, you're just wrong. Quantum mechanics without complex numbers(real quantum theory) is less predictive than complex(regular) quantum theory. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/quantum-physics-falls-apart-without-imaginary-numbers/

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