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[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Tankies are bad."

Do you believe that that because you genuinely believe that capitalist nations like the United States and Russia are doing good things for the world, while "tankie" countries like Cuba and China are doing bad things for the world? Or do you believe that because you have been tricked by 100 years of racist propaganda that says socialists like Fidel Castro, Albert Einstein, and Martin Luther King were subhuman scum?

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Known capitalist evil practices do not absolve tankies of wanting to impose communism by force.

You use the term "racist propaganda" interchangeably as anti-socialist propaganda...as if the only victims of capitalism were the victims of racism.

Who calls MLK and Einstein scum? Maybe Fidel was called that by right-wingers during the Cold War. Why did you mix and match those 3? Why not Emma Goldman or Gorbachev, if you're just naming random socialists (I'm not even sure MLK ever explicitly considered himself a socialist).

[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not even sure MLK ever explicitly considered himself a socialist.

Well then.

"I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic." - Martin Luther King Jr.

"Today, capitalism has out-lived its usefulness." - Martin Luther King Jr.

"Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country." - Martin Luther King Jr.

"We must see now that the evils of racism, economic exploitation and militarism are all tied together." - Martin Luther King Jr.

"The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism." - Martin Luther King Jr.

"If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty and make it possible for all of God's children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to hell." - Martin Luther King Jr.

(from https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/01/21/11-most-anti-capitalist-quotes-martin-luther-king-jr)

It says a lot about the education system wherever you come from that you never learned MLK was a socialist. He HATED capitalism! Hated it! Also, the scientist Albert Einstein was a prominent socialist who wrote a famous article, "Why socialism?" explaining in detail why he was a socialist. Einstein and MLK believed in the same anti-capitalist struggle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Socialism%3F

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Good, as long as you're not a Brezhnevian tankie, it's all good.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lmao How many times has that worked on anyone, honestly? Like I'm just gonna wake up one day and say, "yeah, you know what, my entire worldview has been shattered by @KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net whispering sweet commie propaganda in my ear"

Idk why you are all on stuck on the tankie shit like it matters that much to me. Like I said previously, I don't have a problem with the Christians for being Christian, but just like you tankies, the fandom is weird, intense and circlejerky af

[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IDK man. You're basically saying "Why are you stuck on that environmentalist shit? It doesn't matter to me. Go worry about climate change somewhere else, stop bothering me."

My brother in christ. Climate change will affect you whether you want it to or not. Capitalism will affect you whether you want it to or not. You can't just be "out" of it. You can't not take a side in whether the earth gets destroyed or not (environmentalism) or whether 90% of the world's population is plunged into neo-feudal slavery. You're either with the slave-owners or against them. You gotta pick a side!