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While Baldur's Gate 3 is being widely celebrated by fans and developers alike, some are panicking that this could set new expectations from fans. Good.

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[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We agree Doom was industry-changing, but Doom is currently not as directly influential to the industry today.

When did I ever say that?

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When you said we wouldn't have the games that influence the industry today. The argument only works as a point if you don't think the argument that doom directly influences the industry today. Otherwise you would have argued that which is a stronger point.

[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This feels like I'm back on reddit with these pedantic arguments but fine I'll break it down.

If I said "Hitchcock had a big impact on cinema" would you say "well not anymore in 2023"? Of course not, because you know exactly what I mean. In the moment he was making waves and those waves rippled out to today because of what he influenced and changed and then what they subsequently influenced and changed. He was influential and inspired other filmmakers that would not have otherwise done what they did without his works existing. Doom inspired other devs who made stuff that would never have happened had Doom not existed, then you follow those waves into modern gaming. All of it is a dialogue, all of it is influencing each other, and some games had an outsized impact. Doom is one of them. It was an inflection point for gaming on so many fronts.

You are clearly intelligent/knowledgeable about video games. However, this feels you are being incredibly narrow in your interpretation. You are acting like any other possible meaning is so far afield of what was said in a strange way and I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and not assume you're just going to disagree no matter what because it's the internet, but having to write the above makes me unsure.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough, I see your point.

[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you, sorry for the intensity.