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[–] chomskysfave5@lemmy.film 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're preoccupied with this French revolutionary definition of leftism as the ultimate sieve for what makes a leftist and I'm trying to make a point that today's leftism is a movement that isn't capable of self-criticism because it's become a religious movement as opposed to a political one. Things change, we don't live in revolutionary France.

I feel like we're talking past each other here... I wish the vulkan mind meld was a real thing so we can actually get somewhere with this.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

You’re preoccupied with this French revolutionary definition of leftism as the ultimate sieve for what makes a leftist

Yes, because that was before the likes of Stalin and Mao tried to appropriate the term “leftism” for their own selfish purposes.

I’m trying to make a point that today’s leftism is a movement that isn’t capable of self-criticism because it’s become a religious movement as opposed to a political one.

I'm trying to make a point that those are fake leftists.

The disagreement, as I understand it, is this: when a person wearing a label of virtue acts contrary to that label, you believe that corrupts the label, whereas I believe that makes the person unworthy of the label and refuse to recognize the person as having the label.