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I mean, I'm obviously not very educated on the war, so would welcome any and all corrections. However from my limited perspective I'd be more surprised of NATO-aligned capitalists supporting it than Russian ones. Sure, the life of the average Russian may have gotten worse, and the sanctions may have given an economic shock, but removing foreign capital from local markets is a great way to empower local companies in those same niches.
Even the liberals are now infighting because apparently their sanctions are not ruining Russia enough. Capitalists as a class tend to thrive under instability and inequality, and being cut off from the global market means that their buyers and workers don't have anywhere to go. Just look at how much the local Mir and other local fintechs have only grown since Visa and Mastercard left. Sure, it hurts terribly if you're a small country like Cuba or DPRK to receive sactions, but Russia is big and economically powerful enough to be relatively self-suficient, which is actually a Latinamerican dream that has been denied to us ever since 1804 (or long before if you count the colonies). By the very reporting done by "Western" libs, the sanctions applied are actually quite useless. "oh no, how will Russians live without Pepsi and McDonald's while drowning in gold?" But the foreign capitalists also have a lot to gain with an unlikely full Ukrainian victory, and one needs only look at how liberal outlets are already normalising the concept of a NATO occupation of Russia similar to that of West Germany.
I think it may be important to note that capitalists do not actually have a nationality and will throw proles of any country on the meat grinder if they think that'll benefit them, no matter how much they pretend otherwise. Sure a lot of Russians may be dying on the war and it's a shitstorm to all those on the ground, but to the capitalist, this is just venture capital with blood as investment.
I welcome any and all criticism of my analysis, though, as post-soviet Ukraine/Russia is far out of my sphere of interest.