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[–] words_number@programming.dev 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (45 children)

I really wonder how americans were able to fuck this one up. There are three ways to arrange these and two of them are acceptable!

Edit: Yes, I meant common ways, not combinatorically possible ways.

[–] sift@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It's how the dates are typically said, here. November 6th, 2020 = 11/6/2020. [Edit: I had written 9 instead of 11 for November.] (We basically never say the sixth of November. It sounds positively ancient.) It's easy to use, but I agree that YYYY-MM-DD is vastly superior for organization.

[–] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where is here that November = 9? Probably somewhere you've had a long day

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oct = 8
Nov = 9
Dec = 10

In metric time there are only 10 months per year

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We basically never say the sixth of November. It sounds positively ancient.

When is your independence day, again?

Anyway, in Australia (and, I suspect, other places that use DD/MM/YYYY) we use "{ordinal} of {month}" (11th of August), "{ordinal} {month}" (11th August), and "{month} {ordinal}" (August 11th) pretty much interchangeably. In writing but not in speaking, we also sometimes use "{number} {month}" (11 August). That doesn't have any bearing on how we write it short form though, because those are different things. It's not the defence many Americans seem to think it is of their insane method of writing the short form.

[–] sift@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

It's not the defence many Americans seem to think it is of their insane method of writing the short form.

I've never once been confused about a written date whilst in the US. Your country's other-side-of-the-Earth flip-floppery on how it uses dates really doesn't (and shouldn't) impact our system, which we continue to use because it has proven effective and easy. Trying to stagnate an evolving culture/language is pointless and about as futile as trying to force a river to run backwards. If people start jumbling up how we do it here, like you say Australia does, then that will be right, too.

[–] rdh@midwest.social -3 points 1 year ago

When is your independence day, again?

July 4th, why?

[–] words_number@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Saying it like that is no problem and not ambiguous. Writing it like that makes no sense though.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is a bit of a chicken and egg question though. Because do Americans not say it that way because of the date format or is that the date format because you don't say it that way?

Because in countries using DD.MM.YY we absolutely do say 6th of November.

[–] duffman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's probably what happened. Though I do like starting with the larger context when talking about dates, but omitting it when talking about the current month or year.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm canadian and I've always prefered this format for the same reason. 11/6/23 is november 6th 2023, not the 11th of June 2023, that's weird.

[–] Zeragamba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

As a different Canadian, I always use YYYY-MM-DD and a 24 hour clock.

[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Except that mm/dd/yyyy and dd/mm/yyyy can be ambiguous, I definitely prefer the former if I'm not using an ISO date. But normally I just write ISO and my head translates to MMM dd,yyyy

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