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Even if you think what you would say is obvious, please add. This is genuinely something I think makes sense regarding local bus routes given the longevity of light rail and how infrequently routes change, but I also suffer from confirmation bias, so I'm hoping for reasons this would be a terrible idea but obviously would prefer reasons it would be an even more amazing idea than I thought.

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[–] farsinuce@feddit.dk 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

We tried in Denmark (Aarhus). Quite expensive, and too many issues. Electrical busses (with dedicated lanes) seems like the better solution, ~~bus~~ but this is also not cheap.

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[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But electrical buses still create an outrageous amount of rubber waste

[–] Urik@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good though, whatever increases ridership and gets people off cars faster is going to have a bigger impact on contamination.

[–] smars@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Aarhus is not really a good example of replacing a bus, as it is a rather regional light rail system with a short inner city section. The difficulties they have seen are probably mainly caused by the technical and budgetary choices made during planning.

For Denmark, Odense looks like a better example, that should be successful if they manage to solve the initial challenges, e.g. with noise/vibrations.

As for the longevity that OP is mentioning, the systems in Bergen (Norway) and Tampere (Finland) show how important this is, with huge private investments being made along the lines. A bus line can be gone next year, but rails will stay for at least decades.

[–] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

There's light rail in Odense too. And Copenhagen wants one as well...

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I thought letbane was not bad. What issues are you referring to?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] farsinuce@feddit.dk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My guess is that hydrogen busses suffer the same challenges as hydrogen short-distance trucks. Due to an overall low energy efficiency (electrolysis -> compression -> decompression), it makes better sense for long-distance traveling.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Buses have the advantage of potentially being able to be refuelled more often