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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 120 points 1 year ago (8 children)

God please let me move to Europe I don't even care what language I have to learn I just wanna be able to live without worrying about affording a doctor appointment.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] MrMagnesium12@feddit.de 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Oddbin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understood that!

Duolingo, you son of a bitch you've done it again!

[–] IHateRedditAndSpez@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Did Duolingo teach you what "Hurensohn" means?

[–] CNC@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If not duolingo, then certainly this year's r/Place helped!

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Yes. For everyone who missed it, "Hurensohn" ist the German word for CEO.

Just call your boss a Hurensohn tomorrow to impress them.

[–] Oddbin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

No, it was more for the joke but I was able to figure out roughly what it was before actually googling it to check which was nice.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Subscribe for the naughty words 😏

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Subscribe for the naughty words

THIS is how Duolingo will get my money. That's some value-add right there.

But the quebecois stuff just sounds religious. Weeeird. (I kid, I kid. I once had a sergeant mutter 'sacre bleu' to me, and I almost chuckled realizing it was an actual curse, which is the only way the day could have been made worse)

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you work in academia, you don't need to learn a new language. English is the working language. Also the 5 weeks of holiday is nice, but what really helps is the working day.

I started as a bioinformatician a month ago. I come in to the office at 0830 have coffee from 09:00 til 09:45 with my boss and colleagues, work a bit, have lunch from 12:00 untill 13:15, work a bit, go home at 15:30. That's my day.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Work in IT.
Start at 9:00
Lunch 13:00-14:00
Go home at 18:00
Commute (if construction does not tear up the main crossing) is around 30min 1-way with bus or a 15-20min bicycle ride.

Experience: About 5 years without college/uni.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if construction does not tear up

It's München time

[–] tostiman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Entirety of Germany in my experience. Germans love their Baustelle

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think IT might not be as easy as you think. Academia is a bit more open.

IT isn't quite high skilled enough to get in. They'd almost certainly need an employer to say they couldn't find a European to do the job, which is exceedingly unlikely.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if I quite get what you are saying...
You mean it from the perspective of a US based company?

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think he's saying it's harder to get a work visa taking a job in IT, as the EU company would have to first prove that they couldn't find a European citizen to take the job before they can start hiring foreigners.

It hasn't been my experience though, we hire lots of foreigners on work visas. Many from India and former Soviet countries especially.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Work in IT. Start at 9:00 Lunch 13:00-14:00 Go home at 18:00

IT Job I left:

  • start at 8
  • coffee 10-1030-ish (sometimes like 11)
  • lunch at 12-13
  • second coffee 15-1530
  • leave at 1647, home by 1720 by train -- tools down, muthafuckas
  • voluntary standby for 1/4 time and immediate double-time for callouts, sanctity of personal time otherwise.
  • union, 9x9 work term, no abrupt firings.
  • EXACTLY on the median base salary for my job+region, which includes dot-coms.
  • in north america, no less.

Experience: About 5 years without college/uni.

Experience: my soul.

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[–] BigBen103@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe you don't need the language for work. But you will need te learn the language eventually for other day to day interactions.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or the paper works outside of the labs.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Don't know about other countries, but in Norway you always have the option of getting websites and government information in English. Everyone speaks it including cashier's, cleaners etc.

The same thing is not true in Germany and Spain.

[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Dutchie here, we do the same. Everybody speaks (some form of) English, almost everything is also available in English.

[–] Jazard23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is true but also keep in mind that Dutch is still leading in most cases. E.g. if you have a contract that's both in English and Dutch, if issues arise the Dutch translation will usually be the one that is followed

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

My experience is purely based on Germany and I hate it even as a native. Plus having ADHD and paper being a chore doesnt help at all...

Also most folks (in my experience of south west Germany) of age >40-50 have little experience with English and can't converse beyond the most basics.

[–] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would most certainly disagree that every person speaks English. Especially older people don't, but in general many people here do not speak a good english

[–] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Oh, I see that I totally forgot to mention I'm from Germany

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

No, pretty much anyone in Norway can speak English, some don't feel confident in their ability though. But if you ask any rando on the street if they speak English you get the answer of course ".

[–] ezures@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For some reason France really doesn't like giving english (or any other than french) options on their gov sites. Every other country in the eu are fine.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In France, I feel French is heavily a part of their identity; and contrary to Americans fairweather-jeering their best revolutionary ally, the French do not surrender their identity lightly. It feels like that's the one thing even the poorest French person has, and taking away one iota of that will be met with a resistance we've learned to respect.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

but in Norway [:] English. Everyone speaks it

Scandinavia is absolutely killing it for bilingualism, among so many other ways they're killin' it -- no, really, other countries should just study them for clues in general. My experiences (just Sweden, Denmark and bonus Iceland, so far) is that they say Hej and listen for your "hello", flipping over into beautiful and perfect English without hesitation. Their language programmes are just fucking astounding, really.

Spain's fine in the touristy spots, but Spanish itself is VERY accessible as a language, so it's kinda moot like France.

In Germany I will have to rely heavily on the kindness of strangers as I will never grok the language.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They're exposed to English every day from multiple sources. You aren't allowed into university unless you can read and write English to a high level. Your text books are in English at university and classes open to exchange students are taught in English. All English media is subtitled. And school lessons in English start when they're 6. No mystery, just practice.

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[–] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Seven hour day with an hour and fifteen minute lunch. What kind of magic is this? What's the catch?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

The catch is that you live in Europe and cops won't beat you to death.

[–] gingernate@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[–] CoolBeance@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well this might be an anomaly but the company I worked for in the Philippines gave you a dedicated hour for lunch and two 15-minute breaks, plus two hours weekly for any of the workshops/learning opportunities they provide.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are summer hours. In the rest of the year I'll be expected to work an additional 45 minutes. Officially we only get 30 minutes for lunch, but no-one cares. When our contact in admin is in we keep it to 45 minutes.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

30-45 minutes for lunch, where do you live, in the Netherlands?

In France it's 1h30 usually (give or take a bit depending the company).

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[–] placq@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I work in the public sector. If I start my day at 06.00, I can leave at 14.30 👌 Perfect for me since I am an early riser and the days are slowly getting darker and darker again

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah I have flex time, but the daycare doesn't.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just wanna be able to live without worrying about affording a doctor appointment.

If you avoid the flatlander areas, Canada may be for you. We also speak English; just, without the accent. :-P

(unless you live on the island that's an hour's ferry from France)

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Speaking a language without an accent is like wearing clothes without a material

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk I'm from the central US and I had a German foreign exchange student tell me we didn't have a mimicable accent. I know it's not true but it was interesting to hear that from someone who's familiar with everyone around her speaking in a completely different way, even when using English.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

That's common if you don't know a language too well. There is the variant that you learned, and since you don't know more, you think that this variant has no accent and all the other variants (that you didn't learn and thus are hard to understand) you think have accents.

Only once you spent significant time with multiple accents will you be able to pick up the differences.

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[–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Dutch American Friendship Treaty.

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