I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync's developer, Lemmy's developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home instance up will accelerate the incredible growth of lemmy!

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[–] APassenger@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not either or. But I have now stopped donating because y'all can't get off this topic.

Hate the super-rich, not people with enough money left over at the month that they can afford a nicer way to interact with lemmy as intended - ad free.

That the server needs people with extra cash to support it is exceedingly valid. That's why I had been donating until literally 10 minutes ago.

I'm not subsidizing people who feel entitled to: Free shit Using free shit to tell others how they should spend (Acting like my money is theirs)

It's a simple boundaries issue that so many on Lemmy don't seem to comprehend.

When I stopped my donation, there was "other" then a box to say why. I filled it in. It's just one donation that stopped, but who knows, there could be more.

[–] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have now stopped donating because y'all can't get off this topic.

When I stopped my donation, there was "other" then a box to say why. I filled it in. It's just one donation that stopped, but who knows, there could be more.

You stopped supporting the server you use because some other people (on different servers) commented about another topic entirely? I don't understand the logic behind that. Are you under the impression that someone posting from lemmy.ca is secretly the maintainer of lemmy.world? What's the logical connection here for you?

[–] maajmaaj@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The logic is the mf is petty 😂😂😂

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for asking and a thoughtful response.

I'm (hopefully obviously) not opposed to supporting lemmy.world or the devs. I don't expect free stuff.

I have run into more than a couple people who have needed to opine and troll because they have strong feeling about people enjoying Sync.

The lemmyverse has at least one starting point and maybe I'm still learning. What I see is a place begun in a somewhat communist, left leaning, pro-FOSS standpoint. I suspect that demographic is inclined to thought processes I can't grok.

I understand class resentment (I do; I'm not wealthy (at all)). I understand fatigue with people geeking out over an app that underwhelms a person of other tastes (or means).

That said, I see your distinction. One of the virtues of lemmy is that it's a loose federation. But people from a variety of servers have argued in poor faith (or just not seen what they're doing).

I expect disagreement. It's part of why I'm here: to hear well reasoned counter points and to learn. But it's difficult to say lemmy.world has been happy about the newcomers. That I've seen anyhow.

If making the point that allies are being alienated in ways that matter to us all, helps make a point that we could be friends, then I'll make that point.

I did end my subscribed support that would have outpaced my Sync spend within a year (you can math that). Lemmy, right now, has an unwelcoming vibe that's not even a little background. It is foreground. And problematic if this experiment is going to work.

[–] esty@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

all i said is better spent, not that you’re not allowed to spend money on sync; and you talk about it like you’re forced to pay to browse lemmy without ads when it’s sync that has ads and not lemmy?

Strange comment

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I happily supported the dev. Just as I had happily supported the server.

OP mentions sync, you mention sync, I mention sync (eww thats crass), you mention sync... first line comments mention sync in frustrated tones. Are you going to lecture them too?

I know the misrepresent-and-fatigue strategy of argumentation and I'm not going to play. I've seen it a surprising amount here on Lemmy and you're doing it now.

If honesty or integrity don't mean a lot to you, I'd recommend turning over the soap box.

On topic, again: you, along with others, have persuaded me to cease donations but I don't retreat like you may hope.

This bastian of class resentment is going to have to adapt or close. If everyone here is what I'm seeing, I hope the person running the server has deep pockets. Or I guess everyone keeps instance hopping until everyone realizes it's not sustainable and instances aren't spun up.

I'm not wealthy, in the least, but I don't expect things for free. Lemmy has taught me I should. I'll apply that to the servers and development.

[–] esty@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Womp womp