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    [–] 1984@lemmy.today 125 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    Google "Only spy the web" is highly inaccurate...they are everywhere. In every website, in your android phone, in your YouTube, in your Google drive, in your email, in your Google maps...

    Anyways... I will calm down now. :)

    [–] Redredme@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    In your car, your TV, your network, your dns.....

    Everywhere.

    [–] 1984@lemmy.today 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    They are even part of paying for the massive underwater cables between continents that all internet traffic runs through.

    They took everything over.

    It's the most extensive surveillance network in the world.

    [–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
    [–] SolarMech@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Except that instead of an authoritarian government using it to totally control the learned populace, they are showing you ads.

    We've still got a way to go before 1984. If it did happen, you wouldn't be able to discuss it.

    [–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

    To be fair, Google does release data to governments so I guess it's both.

    [–] voluble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    We've always been at war with Eastasia.

    [–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Used to be a joke, now its a journey.

    [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Dystopia has taken over.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's cute, people think their android os isn't collecting an embarrassing amount of data. Even if you turn everything off but cellular, it still phones home with cellular tower triangulation, app usage, call history, general web activity, weather the phone thinks your walking driving or riding a Bike, device diagnostics, etc.

    [–] 1984@lemmy.today 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

    Same, I wish there was a better options. I'm on android right now but when it comes time to upgrade I always try to choose the lesser evil and it's hard.

    [–] deft@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

    demand compensation we should be paid for it

    [–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I wish there was a paid google of no spying... I mean what does google one get me, but the ability for google to spy on more or my data?

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    They're really good at providing value for your data, I feel the same way about YouTube premium. I do it to better support creators and remove ads but they probably have one of the most detailed profiles on me.

    [–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    They're really good at providing value for your data

    Perhaps you perceive that to be, which is totally fine, but how do you actually know that? We have no clue what that value truly is to them since they won't share with us. If you are happy with what the googs get you, great (no sarcasm).

    Myself, I fail to see the value being returned.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    To each it's own, I'm trying to move away from Google too. I still think it's a better return than you would ever get from Facebook, Microsoft, or Amazon. There's something to be said about most people being completely happy with using Gmail, YouTube, chrome, or search with minimal complaints. For a while we even got "free" unlimited storage for photos.

    [–] 4am@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Everyone thinks about the spying as relating to themselves, the individual.

    Google doesn’t give a shit about you. Google gives a shit about us. Collectively. They can monitor the collective soul of the world. When people are busy, when they’re not paying attention, when they’re mad, who, and for how long; how they react to certain subjects…how to get them to listen about certain subjects, how to bring them around to certain subjects, how to keep them disagreeing with other viewpoints, etc.

    They’re literally developed “a remote control for the flock” and everyone’s out here like “why do I care if Google see my save games I have 500 hours in CoD so wut”

    [–] lemann@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    in your android phone

    And if you try to revoke their spying access on a rooted stock device, they force a reboot ☹️

    [–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hence GrapheneOS sandboxing the Play Store. It is ironic that Google is the only phone manufacturer that allows for installing a different OS. But I suppose the fact that GrapheneOS has pushed security updates that have made it into stock Android and the fact that most users won't bother installing an alternative OS on their pixel phones is why they allow such shenanigans.

    [–] Jamie@jamie.moe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I use rooted LineageOS on my 4a 5G, though I do still have GApps on it. Next phone I buy I'm thinking I'll give GrapheneOS a try. Leaving behind my rooted system level adblocking would be difficult for me though.

    [–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    In regards to ad blocking. My solution isn't as all encompassing as that, but for general web browsing, I use the Mull browser as you can install some addons like ublock and noscript. I'll admit though if you're looking to install advertisement heavy Play Store Apps though, I'd say maybe look into using a PiHole to adblock your home network?

    [–] Jamie@jamie.moe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I mostly just use my phone for/at work. I already have a server that could operate as a pihole at home, but my PC already blocks everything under the sun, so it's not really needed.

    I get most of my stuff off f-droid unless I don't have any other choice, and use firefox with ublock+noscript on my phone as-is. But it is nice to not have to worry about getting ads in anything else when I do install an odd game or something, though.

    [–] boerbiet@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

    What works for me is a pi-hole at home, a wireguard service on my (dd-wrt) router with the pi-hole functioning as dns server and my phone using wireguard as an always-on vpn.

    All traffic on my phone is now routed through the pi-hole at home, which filters out all tracking, wherever I am.

    [–] biscuitsofdeath@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Can users who use Google Fi switch too? Will call screening still work?

    [–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

    I don't use Google Fi, but a quick search shows that many have gotten it to work with Graphene OS just fine. You can still install Fi from the Play Store, and it appears all works as intended as long as you grant it Network Permissions.

    I'd do research on it though if you're truly interested. They have a link to their Matrix chat on their website where you can field general questions.

    [–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

    It would be fun if some government required companies that off free services to disclose how they make money and allow each user to see their particular value. This might help open some eyes....

    [–] sag@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I use alternative for all google services.

    YouTube - piped.video

    Google drive - Mega Drive or Anonfile

    G-Mail - Proton

    Google Map - OSM (Open Street Map)

    [–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I think you meant:

    Google maps - OSM

    and

    Google Search Engine - almost a thing else (duckduckgo)

    [–] sag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yea, But my search engine is ecosia.org

    [–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

    Ecosia is cool. Should probably also switch to it...

    [–] m3t00@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    started uploading pics to maps as a 'guide' back in 2000s. G has sent me a few trinkets over the years(coveted lego phone stand). a level 8 guide, w/e that means. millions of pic views. what do I care. it's a hobby. Moved a home phone line to Voice. Get email transcript of any voice mails. set it to do not disturb. phone never rings. voicemail or nothing. I use them for free. They use me. Or think they do coveted lego phone stand