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Joe Rogan Says It’s a ‘Fact’ That Jan. 6 Was a False Flag, Cites Ray Epps
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Wow, not a single comment here acknowledging the documented prolific use by the U.S. of agents provocateur to infiltrate and sabotage anti-establishment groups and protests. The only difference between the historic infiltration of environmental movements, civil rights/BLM, etc., and this is that this is right-wing. I'll go ahead and say what all of you are too ignorant or cowardly to say:
Democrats are not your friend.
Republicans are not your friend.
If you're sitting here like a 12-year-old generating your endorphins from a "Yeah! The enemy is so stupid and we're the best!" mentality—and that's most if not every single one of you—you're doing it wrong and you're making it worse. You're the problem.
And Joe Rogan, in this case—not to diminish the culpability of Trump—is absolutely right, but you're all too emotionally stunted to be able to admit it. Get off your infantile, misguided high horse. Standing up for liberal and progressive values is cool, but the current Democratic party does not stand up for those values. Perversely—and it blows mind to say this and to see so many people remain willfully blind to it—the Republican party is currently more liberal then the Democrats. It may only be because standing up against censorship happens to benefit them, but call a spade a spade. Stop being such a bunch of incredibly gullible fucks and look upon the rot growing at the highest echelons of our government. It's not partisan, but its most insidious tactic is pretending to be.
Here's a conciliatory piece of advice to follow, a general rule of thumb that nevertheless works out to be pretty much 100% accurate: everything that Democrats accuse Republicans of is true; AND, everything Republicans accuse Democrats of is true. It certainly is in this case. Trump did and said what he did, AND the FBI and CIA did what they've always done to advance the ruling party's agenda for at least the last half a century. Hell, they fucking did it to Ukraine in 2014. It's not contested information, just obscured history, which you'd know if you'd only paid attention to what they didn't teach you in history class.
On an unrelated note I will say that it's refreshing to be able to write a comment that will likely get buried a thousand feet deep and not give a fuck. Go ahead and do your worst, but I hope Lemmy can be a different place and that you'll do your best to listen to a well-meaning alternative perspective (excuse the language).