Sync is just so much more polished and feature-rich than all of these already... It's exactly like how it was when it was for reddit, and it's just one dev! I don't mind at all paying for a fantastic app.

You guys are taking the justified corpo hate and extending it to talented individual devs just making a living.

[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

FOSS isn't about "corpo hate". It's about freedom. There's a philosophy behind it. You can, of course, disagree with it, but I think you should know what you're disagreeing with.

If the users don't control the program, the program controls the users. With proprietary software, there is always some entity, the developer or “owner” of the program, that controls the program—and through it, exercises power over its users. A nonfree program is a yoke, an instrument of unjust power.

[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the community. A large part of the community absolutely is about gate-keeping and hating on corporations... and now devs too apparently.

[–] baru@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A large part of the community absolutely is about gate-keeping and hating on corporations

I haven't seen that at all. Hate doesn't bring you far.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I have and it's good and cool.

Well maybe not gatekeeping. But hating corporations...

[–] DzikiMarian@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In general I strongly prefer open source, because lots of propertiary software will try to vendor lock you and then extract money from you, when it's hard to escape for you.

In this case however I can change back to Connect or other any second, so amount of control this program has is extremely minimal and experience in exchange is better.

Informed choice is better than picking and following dogma, because dogma doesn't work in some cases.

[–] kagemushablues@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah F locked ecosystems. Anyone can walk away from Sync if they don't like it.

The philosophy of FOSS is very cool but for one dev Sync is way too much work to be doing for free. It has my support.

[–] TwentySeven@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's about a very narrowly and specifically defined version of freedom, which somewhat ironically restricts people's ability to define freedom for themselves.

I personally find Apache2, MIT, or the WTFPL a lot more free-feeling than all the restrictions GPL imposes in the name of freedom.

[–] jamesravey@lemmy.nopro.be 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used to agree until I saw corporations starting to fork open source projects to run them internally like the "I made this" meme.

If I spend months or years of my life toiling over a project and license it permissively with MIT or such, they can just swoop in one day and take it for free and be like "thanks, we're going to make mega bucks off your code and give you nothing" (and yes this does happen https://www.elastic.co/blog/why-license-change-aws).

No, screw that! I'm gonna make my stuff AGPL and those guys can damn well pay me for my time of they want to use my stuff or more cynically, do it anyway or go and reimplement it themselves in-house knowing damn well I can't afford an army of lawyers to actually do anything about it.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 16 points 1 year ago

Your freedom to swing your arm ends at my nose. Your freedom to do whatever you want with my code ends when you want to bind other users with it.

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Yes, the "free" in free software specifically refers to the freedom to read and modify the source code.

That's the specific freedom we are talking about when we say "free as in freedom".

Also, under the philosophy, permissive licenses (like MIT or BSD) is still considered free since you can see and modify the source code. The only thing the GPL strive to ensure is that this freedom will be awarded all others who interact with the fruits of your labour.

[+] jerkface@lemmy.ca -7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, until he gets an attractive buyout offer from an SEO company who wants to get into data mining.

[–] jonsnothere@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

I mean, just change apps at that point? There's no lock-in, worst case you lose what you paid to remove ads. No point getting worked up over hypothetical scenarios

[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hating on someone based on unfounded hypotheticals is fucked up. LJ has always been very open with the community for the whole time Sync was on reddit.

Username checks out ig?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow, that is "hating" in your world? I wish I lived there. Take it down a notch, dude.

Yes, I am talking about potentials; potentials that simply do not exist in the FOSS world but happen every day with commercial software. A significant difference between an independent dev and a libre project is that you own the libre project. No one can ever take it away from you. You merely borrow it from the independent dev, and in that way, and speaking as a frustrated developer myself, every single one of them suck in all the same ways that every single corporation sucks. There's no difference. That's not hate, that's pragmatic realism.

[–] naitro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So what exactly is the problem here? If Sync gets bought and you don't like the new owner, stop using it and move on..

[–] OldSchoolMonkey@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I mean he had all the opportunity for selling Sync for reddit and take profit. I converted to Sync nearly 7 years ago when I bought their ad free version called Sync Pro. He made great improvements adding material ui and lots of desirable features for an already great app. From my POV he didn't abandon the app, gave updates till the last day of its existence and was a great dev in general who was active in his sub listening to our queries . Maybe the people who knew him from those days are the ones who is supporting him now.