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IRC > XMPP > Matrix > Discord.
Matrix is heavy. I ran my own instance once and it is very resource intensive (even using Dendrite) even if you have only joined a handful of rooms. XMPP chat gives most of the same things I need for chat and is much lighter but no one uses it (sadly). IRC deserves a mention for something that is rock solid and simple and will still be around after Matrix and Discord (if they ever end), however people can't post their meme pics or their emojis so it doesn't appeal to younger people.
Concerning Discord. I literally only made an account because I had classmates that made a server.
I don't know if we can blame Matrix for Synapse being slow since it's written in Python. Dendrite (go) and Rome (rust) were the main alternative server implementations last I checked.
I didn't know about Rome. I may check it out. I did run Dendrite but it's still pretty intensive, but much better than Synapse.
It seems like the Matrix protocol is kind of a beast making it hard for Dendrite to finally replace it or alternatives to catch up, especially with how hard the encryption stuff is. Matrix is definitely the prime example of federation making development harder/slower.
I heard someone say that the messages on Matrix are basically replicated on every server that is federated with another. I don't know if this is true, but that's a crazy amount of network traffic if so. I've also heard anecdotally that the protocol itself is pretty complicated.
Just like… everything that's federated? XMPP, Mastodon, Lemmy ?
As soon as you're in the room (messaging) or following someone or something (social networking), you want to store all their content, so that you have it even if their server is down.
I might jump on IRC. I like XMPP so far, but I'll need to spend a lot more time with it.
I like your ranking. I sit in a couple of xmpp muc for xmpp client projects, but there are virtually no public non-xmpp related xmpp rooms. But doesn't really cost anything to start one I suppose.
Hi, I'm an xmpp user. If there's something you like, please create a room for it, so that others can look it up and join and make our small xmpp family bigger :)