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Christopher Nolan Forgot To Credit Over 80% Of VFX Crew On ‘Oppenheimer’ (www.cartoonbrew.com)

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From the linked article…

In a day and age when literally everyone connected to a film production gets a credit, from craft services to on-set teachers of child actors to random “production babies” who didn’t even work on a film, it is utterly incomprehensible that vfx artists, whose work makes possible the final images that appear onscreen, are routinely omitted from screen credits.

I can attest to this, having worked in the field. Most of the work in TV and cinema goes uncredited, with team leaders or just the post houses at most being recognized with an end credit placement (by contract, of course). I understand totally that it is always a team effort and hardly any of the viewing public sits through the entire end credits roll. I totally get it. But when it happens that you are included, that small token of recognition does remind you why you're doing 12-hour days erasing power lines, making day look like night, adding/removing people and/or signage from shots they weren't supposed to be in and pushing greenscreened people in front of moving cars.

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[–] Twofacetony@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a really interesting issue within the industry. I work within the film and television industry, both in Australia and the UK, and have never been credited for the roles that I do that, some would argue, should be credited for.

But when you break down something like a mega-Hollywood-super-feature-blockbuster-film like Oppenheimer, the amount of ancillary and auxiliary bodies working on a movie like this, would amount to a credit role that would be very hard to keep track of.

For example, do you credit the data wranglers who might be assisting the DIT, or the courier service who delivers dailies to the post house? Or the team of edit assistants who make proxies for OCM? Do you credit every person who was on craft catering for the entire production run?

On one hand, I can see why it is “consolidated” to team leads, or heads of departments, but personally I think that ANYONE who worked on the film SHOULD be credited, as their time is equally as important as everyone else’s.

I have learnt to accept that my name won’t be appearing in any credit role, despite the hours I put in to make sure it happens, and I am okay with that, but totally understand and support anyone who feels like they should get the recognition… as I said at the start… interesting issue.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

but personally I think that ANYONE who worked on the film SHOULD be credited, as their time is equally as important as everyone else’s.

Well that's just not true. If it was, they'd all be paid the same for their time. It's nice to think in egalitarian terms, but it's not true. Some people are more vital than others.

[–] funkless@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

in that case crafty is probably more vital to a movie happening than the DP.

[–] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ive spent months working on the VFX for a show only to not appear in the credits, yet the dude who brought lunches to the crew on set who gets paid significantly less than me gets a credit.

I get that if 100,000 people work on a film they don't want to fit all of them in the credits. But also, why not? Sure there would need to be some sort of threshold, you can't just Uber someone to work and get a movie credit. But someone who actually did work should get credited. If the credits last 10 more minutes, who cares? Physical discs have plenty of space now, granted, streaming is now king. But that only proves my point more.

The only argument I can think of is that movie theaters need time for one movie to end before the next one starts because of post-credits or something. But that's so niche and can easily be worked around with mid-credits scenes, or faster scrolling credits on the theater version.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I worked as a stand-in for one of the main actors in Tulsa King for 8 months and didn't get a credit. I was even in some of the scenes as the character when he couldn't be there and wasn't in focus. It kind of pissed me off to be honest. I even put in more hours than my actor rehearsing the scenes over and over.

[–] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Your frustration is completely justified.