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[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The rulers figured out the internet is too dangerous to their power. They thought they could control it and us, and they did for a long time, but it's not working anymore. Now they are cracking down on our ability to communicate, to prevent ideas from spreading and taking hold that they cannot tolerate.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

? They’re just following the end game of capitalism, they’re trying to squeeze every last bit of profit out of the internet that they can, it has nothing to do with the internet “threatening” power, they already took care of that with all of the spying laws they passed when the internet started getting popular

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe, but capitalism has been the case the entire time, why is social media globally melting down in 2023?

Also, spying laws are not necessarily effective at containing the spread of ideas.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

interest rate hikes, VCs are demanding their money back and companies are scrambling to become profitable/more profitable.

Edit: forgot to address the other point, they don't really care about us spreading ideas as long as we don't actually threaten their power. There is absolutely 0 threat of a socialist revolution anywhere in the west right now

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not speaking of socialist revolution. There's a whole spectrum between licking boots and socialist revolution that is mostly ignored online. There are many ways people can threaten power, even just using Lemmy instead of Reddit. Here the conversations and our attention are not directed by profit and power seeking interests.

[–] katie@lemmy.tillicumnet.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here the conversations and our attention are not directed by profit and power seeking interests.

I agree Lemmy is better. But, can you really be sure that every post and comment on this platform is made by a real person with no hidden agenda?

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

No, never, but that's not necessarily the biggest problem. I think the algorithms were a bigger problem, and we don't have that here (at least not secret profit driven ones).

[–] GraySteve@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Capitalism is on a regular decline. It's typically good for development, then after the dust settles it declines.

[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think the "spying laws" are what makes the internet controlled. It's the constant, huge waves of misinformation and weak thought, which are enabled by those "spying laws", among others ways. Just my two cents, tho.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

That’s fair, didn’t think of that in the moment

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"the rulers" dude, this isn't D&D

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Oh my bad, obviously there are no ultra wealthy people with power boners able to use their fortunes to get their way.

[–] GraySteve@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

You've done it, the bourgeoisie are no more!

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Nope... it's far worse.