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Inspired by the linked XKCD. Using 60% instead of 50% because that's an easy filter to apply on rottentomatoes.

I'll go first: I think "Sherlock Holmes: A game of Shadows" was awesome, from the plot to the characters ,and especially how they used screen-play to highlight how Sherlocks head works in these absurd ways.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Suicide Squad.

Ok since no movie critic of comic book movies actually reads comics or ever bothered to read the Wikipedia articles summarizing I present to you their issues and why they are wrong. Also including is generic movie information..

The prison has people with no powers! Yes, exactly like the comic books. It was the most dangerous not the most powerful. Harley is dangerous because of nothing else her connection to the Joker. Deadshot is dangerous because people want to hire him. Angry powerful people.

The movie had modern music in it! Movies tend to do this. Be not alarmed.

The pacing was off in the middle! Agreed but the same can be said about everything Kubrick made and I don't hear you complaining.

Harley and Joker have a toxic relationship! Yes, they are villains.

There wasn't enough time spent on character backstory! Use your glowing rectangle.

They caused the problem they were supposed to be solving! Yes, like the comics. It was a metaphor for the CIA. Fidel Castro, Iraq, that dictator in Panama, the Taliban....Got it?

Harley should have better weapons! Have someone scream at you and run at you waving a baseball bat and tell me that you are okay with the situation.

[–] earthmage@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you picked the most minor nitpicks on purpose but none of those are really why I'd say it's a bad movie. In my opinion it's because the execution is just poor overall. If you watch the newer suicide squad it does pretty much all the same things as the first one but better.

They're there to fix a problem caused by the government that sent them. Harley deals with attraction to a toxic and evil man. Some have super powers and some don't.

The difference is the characters are interesting, likeable, funny, and you get to learn about their back stories and see some character development for all of them. Everything in the original just comes across as forced and only a few of the characters get any real focus.

I sum it up as the difference between killer croc and king shark. Killer croc just looks bad and is basically a 1 dimensional black stereotype that's just there and maybe does something twice the whole movie. King shark is a dumb lovable monster that bonds with the team and actually has a presence beyond monster guy go do the thing we brought you for. They're both supposed to be major parts of the team as the heavy hitters but you could take killer croc out of the first one and the movie would be unaffected.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I went thru the reviews on rotten tomatoes. These are not my arguments. They are the ones produced by people who don't know what Wikipedia is evidently.

I am not claiming it is Shakespeare. It is an enjoyable movie and the arguments I heard about why it was bad are not great. Critics are inconsistent and subjective. What's more they seem peer obsessed over customer obsessed. When I read a film review I want to know if the movie is worth spending money on, not if the critic was in a bad mode that day or if they want to suck up to someone else.

They forgave Kubrick for sins they made this movie pay for. Here check this out: go name 2 humans from 2001 without searching online. About 9 are identified by name and everyone can only remember 1. Seems a bit one dimensional with not enough backstory doesn't it? How about the pacing in 2001. Are you going to tell me you didn't fall asleep in the middle? And yet he is given a pass. One is considered one of the best movies of all time and the other is shat on by critics. Yet both had the same "sins".

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