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Over the past one and a half years, Stack Overflow has lost around 50% of its traffic. This decline is similarly reflected in site usage, with approximately a 50% decrease in the number of questions and answers, as well as the number of votes these posts receive.

The charts below show the usage represented by a moving average of 49 days.


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[–] BurningnnTree@lemmy.one 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why is everyone saying this is because Stack Overflow is toxic? Clearly the decline in traffic is because of ChatGPT. I can say from personal experience that I've been visiting Stack Overflow way less lately because ChatGPT is a better tool for answering my software development questions.

[–] Rentlar@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was going to say ChatGPT.

I think the smugness of StackOverflow is still part of it. Even if ChatGPT sometimes fabricates imaginary code, it's tone is flowery and helpful, compared to the typical pretentiousness of Stackoverflow users.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Also, you can have it talk like a catgirl maid, so I find that's particularly helpful as well.

[–] ShrimpsIsBugs@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

The timing doesn't really add up though. ChatGPT was published in November 2022. According to the graphs on the website linked, the traffic, the number of posts and the number of votes all already were in a visible downfall and at their lowest value of more than 2 years. And this isn't even considering that ChatGPT took a while to get picked up into the average developer's daily workflow.

Anyhow though, I agree that the rise of ChatGPT most likely amplified StackOverflow's decline.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Half the time when I ask it for advice, ChatGPT recommends nonexistent APIs and offers examples in some Frankenstein code that uses a bit of this system and a bit of that, none of which will work. But I still find its hit rate to be no worse than Stack Overflow, and it doesn't try to humiliate you for daring to ask.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends on what sort of thing you're asking about. More obscure languages and systems will result in hallucinated APIs more often. If it's something like "how do I sort this list of whatever in some specific way in C#" or "can you write me a regex for such and such a task" then it's far more often right. And even when ChatGPT gets something wrong, if you tell it the error you encountered from the code it'll usually be good at correcting itself.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I find that if it gets it wrong in the first place, its corrections are often equally wrong. I guess this indicates that I've strayed into an area where its training data is not of good quality.

[–] AbidanYre@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Your follow up question should be for ChatGPT to write those APIs for you.

[–] throwsbooks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Over the last five years, I'd click a link to Stack Overflow while googling, but I've never made an account because of the toxicity.

But yeah, chatGPT is definitely the nail in the coffin. Being able to give it my code and ask it to point out where the annoying bug is... is amazing.