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since there isn't any strong way to collect data or advertise it will always be an underdog compared to big business.
that being said, the fediverse could outlast a few mainstream networks and build lasting strength with that. I'm an ideal setting it could become a defacto network over time.
can we get young people coming here though? that's how we get the tides to turn
@knighthawk0811
> since there isn't any strong way to collect data or advertise it will always be an underdog compared to big business
... unless and until democratic governments ban corporations from spying on the people using their platforms, as they bloody well ought to, if they have any respect for the human rights of the citizens. Or pass laws that force the Walled Gardens to federate with similar platforms, like the Digital Markets Act.
@Bicyclejohn
@knighthawk0811
> can we get young people coming here though
That's a very good question to ask a young person. OTTOMH though...
... anything they have to use at school, they're unlikely to use by choice at home or elsewhere. What would have got me to join the fediverse if it existed when I was a young person? Hearing that someone I respected had joined like Upper Hutt Posse, or Michael Franti, or RATM, or even David Bowie. Pop poets are the vanguard party of the young.
@Bicyclejohn
I for one am a young person, but my peers are too tiktok obsessed. While I use an VPN 24/7 I liek that the fediverse is not banned at school Still use VPN tho
@Bicyclejohn
> my peers are too tiktok obsessed
What is it that attracts them to TikTok? The features and user experience, or the pool of people and content they can find there? Or something else?
Algorithm and peer pressure. I'm among one of the only damn kids in my school who never used that shit
@Bicyclejohn @strypey I hear it's addictive once you start using it.
I never started using it.
Glad to hear. I don't use most major social media. Separates me a lot from my peers
With companies quickly closing their communities to try and keep their user generated content for themselves so they can make money off of AI training data, it's possible the open nature of the Fediverse may cause companies to invest in it. "You let us keep indexing your content and we'll foot the bill for your server" seems like an excellent way to get cheap training data, especially because content gets mirrored between sites.
And truthfully, if there were a Fediverse instance that could handle a million users without collapsing, it'd probably be able to run ads as well.
There's a risk that users will flee the server if they find out about this stuff, especially with services that support moving your account, but I can see someone succeed with a commercially backed Fediverse instance.