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Fed’s new instant payment system could be trouble for PayPal, Venmo::The Fed's goal is to connect 9,000 financial institutions nationwide.

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[–] ididntsayanything@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago (9 children)

This is wild. Here in the UK we just transfer money from bank to bank in an instant using the banks own app.

[–] abort_christian_babies@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Here in the US it’s only instant if it’s coming out of your account.

If it’s coming out of the bank’s account it will take 7-45 days and require a 35 dollar processing fee payable only in person and must be cash.

Don’t forget about the 4.99 bank fee and 3.99 convenience fee.

Would you like to add 25% or 35% gratuity today?

Please round your transaction to the nearest hundred dollars to donate to starving babies and the bank will match your donation up to 3 cents.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here in the US it’s only instant if it’s coming out of your account.

If it’s coming out of the bank’s account

Can you please explain the difference here, because that doesn't make sense to me. When am I ever transferring money out of the banks account instead of mine?

[–] abort_christian_babies@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My comment was worded in an intentionally inflammatory way for sarcasm and humor. Poking fun at this pester charging for everything culture.

To answer your question though.

The point of view of the leveraging bank money, a loan, credit, refund.

To be fair, general banking has gotten a lot faster in both directions. So my snark is marginal at best.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Ah ok, all good. I guess it's showing how bad the state of affairs is with payments in the USA when I had to ask that question haha.

[–] malloc@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

This is what banking looks like if you are poor, unfortunately.

Those cash checking places are fucking evil. Then the payday loan companies with usury…

[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What bank do you have that charges $35 for a transfer?

I transfer between b of a and chase bank, both known for having decently high fees, without any of those fees.

The $35 amount I've only seen with overdrafting. Do you overdraft every single transfer?

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh… the entire comment. 7 to 45 days… really? Gratuity… in a bank app?

[–] abort_christian_babies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

From Rocket Mortgage, a banking app.

“Overall, the average time to close on a mortgage – the amount of time from when the lender receives your application to the time the loan is disbursed – is 52 days, according to Ellie Mae. Conventional loans had the shortest turnaround times at 51 days, followed by FHA loans at 55 days and VA loans at 57 days.”

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We’re talking about wire transfers, not closing on a mortgage. They take 3-5 days. I pay my loan to Rocket every month

[–] abort_christian_babies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, the entire thread is about wire transfers lol. There’s nowhere on Earth where you can close on your mortgage instantly

[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here in Canada, e-transfer with 0 fees is pretty normal.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's been a while since I did it but you can authorize it so all e-transfers are automatically accepted and deposited. I can't think of a scenario where that would be a bad thing.

[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I have auto-deposit enabled.

[–] rustyriffs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How long has it been that way? We've never had that here in the states...

[–] ididntsayanything@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

It’s so normal that I can’t actually remember it ever being any different. Even before the advent of mobile banking it was the same with internet banking. Instant transfers.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Australia we've had free next business day transfers for as long as I can remember. Decades.

The transition to transfers that clear in seconds was happened gradually as bottlenecks were removed from the infrastructure one by one. Some transactions were instant a couple decades ago, but it's only in the last few years that most transactions are instant here.

These days, Visa/Mastercard are basically the slowest way you can pay someone. It's still the most commonly used option though, since it has the best fraud protection.

[–] jetsetdorito@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the US we have Zelle which is free and instant, but it's still a third party your bank integrates

[–] docious@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I do this in the States. Maybe you haven't noticed the option on the bank's site? Also make sure to use a credit union.

[–] Angius@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same in Poland. That, and Blik system which let's you send money to a phone number (if it's also registered with Blik) and it's actually instant. Not "next transfer window" like Elixir transfers, instant.

And yes, completely free.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

The US has this, it's called Zelle, every bank seems to have it, and it's instantaneous. For some reason it's just not popular, probably because Paypal and others are already entrenched.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Same in Canada. It's like going back in time when crossing the border when it comes to banking and payment.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And I assumed it was the same everywhere!

[–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

In Spain we have Bizum - transfer money using a persons mobile phone number (as long as you’re both registered with your bank). Instant and free

[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Same with us. I don't know what these other folks are talking about. I transfer seemlessly between my accounts at different banks.