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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure famine, sanctions, and concentrated international sabotage had nothing to do with it.

[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was no famine in URSS post world war 2. What are you talking about?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last I checked, 1946-1947 comes after 1945, double-check my math though.

And let's circle back around to the far more important concentrated international sabotage if you please.

[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Soviet Union collapsed in 1990 because of the famine in 47?

And let’s circle back around to the far more important concentrated international sabotage if you please.

International sabotage? Do you have evidence of sanctions against USSR and their allies which weren't matched back by USSR & their allies?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone else already linked 'Killing Hope' by William Blum. I recommend perusing it.

[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Killing Hope’

That doesn't answer the question. At most, it just shows that KGB were more incompetent or not endowed with literary talent.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I asked for examples of international sanctions which USSR & their allies couldn't match. That book is about CIA and US crappy foreign policy. If you say that CIA actions where themselves sanctions against USSR, then surely KGB should have solved the issue.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The book is very clearly focused on US intervention directly against the USSR and other socialist regimes. Did you even glance through the table of contents?

Are you suggesting that we ignore this significant, direct interference from an abnormally advantaged superpower as a contributing factor to the USSR's downfall? That's simply illiterate.

[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I've already dismissed the narrative that poor little USSR had a disadvantage against the big bad US when I pointed out that they abusively occupied half of Europe at the end of WW2 and had influence over a lot more of it. If you're bringing up secret services and you're saying that the US one was better at its job, then you're simply pointing out that the USSR one was incompetent.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In one corner, an uninterrupted economy bolstered on the global scale by not being a smoldering pile of ashes. In the other, the ruins of post-war Europe, juggling reconstruction and revolution.

Your analysis is either deliberately disingenuous, or feeble-mindedly impotent. I'm not interested in either. Read a book.

[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh spare me of that song played on the world's smallest violin. That's the stupidest take an the whole situation that I've ever seen. "Read a book"... yeah, the poor little witch being burned alive by Hansel and Gretel... Is that how you view that story too?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the poor witch was so hungry... What could she do?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exploit the global poor and extrajudicially unseat duly elected leaders around the world to subvert the democratic will of foreign citizens and maintain capitalist hegemony? Who did your daddy tell you the hungry witch was?

[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who did your daddy tell you the hungry witch was?

You're telling me it was the USSR. Poor thing, alone in the woods with nothing to eat... Those kids were so unfair to her

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was you, but your reading comprehension is not surprising. Maybe try some sources besides right wing propaganda. Good luck in life, you'll need it.

[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You too. Have fun making excuses for poor witches

I hope you figure out you're not doing anything different.