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Correct me if I'm wrong. I read ActivityPub standards and dug a little into lemmy sources to understand how federation works. And I'm a bit disappointed. Every server just has a cache and the ability to fetch something from another known server. So if you start your own instance, there is no profit for the whole network until you have a significant piece of auditory (e.g. private instances or servers with no users). Are there any "balancers" to utilize these empty instances? Should we promote (or create in the first place) a way how to passively help lemmy with such fast growth?

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[–] goldenarchmage@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)

It's a bit worse than that actually. I'm now seeing several communities with exactly the same name that originate on different servers - so clearly Lemmy doesn't have a rule about duplication once you cross a server boundary. That's going to get unwieldy quite fast particularly if, I dunno, "Aww" gets popular on two separate servers at the same time - I guess I'll have to subscribe to both...

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Well one instance shouldn't monopolize a community. If it takes a dump on one instance at least it exists elsewhere. If I want to start up my own cat community I don't see why that's an issue.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 48 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I agree, I don't particularly see this as an actual issue... Nothing stops you from subscribing to both.

Just like there could be a saik0@gmail.com and a saik0@yahoo.com. Nobody is confused with emails when it comes to this... The difference is that it's slightly more work than reddit because r/aww is one particular thing and it's assumed we're talking about Reddit because of it's unique format. Here it's just c/aww on lemmy.ml, but that's a bit of the point of the !aww@lemmy.ml structure of naming.

I LOVE that there's !aww@lemmy.ml and !aww@lemmy.world. Different communities ran by different groups will end up with different content. Then I can shop for the content I want myself.

Nobody can singularly own the name. I always found that to be a big problem on reddit. r/trees comes to mind, if there was an actual arborist community that want r/trees, well they were fucked. And that's kind of jacked. This way it doesn't matter. Just pick a different instance that doesn't already have c/trees and post there... or better, start your own instance to host it.

I don't know... in the future people could even start up instances of lemmy on domains like lemmy.jobs, lemmy.help or lemmy.hobby to aggregate major communities based on topics. lemmy.jobs for instance could be an instance that houses professional the arborist and the domain would make it clear the intent. Or even better... drop the lemmy all together and register jobs.social or similarly descriptive domain names.

I know we're all a hodge-podge of domains now because a lot of us are just spinning up instance on domains we already have... but the potential is there.

[–] Toribor@corndog.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not sure how this would work, but what about the concept of cross-instance communities? For users it would be a bit like a multi-reddit where you group various communities together into one aggregate list but when posting content you'd have to choose which instance it lands on. Mods would have to agree on a set of rules (and you'd have some communities split off due to differences), but otherwise it seems somewhat plausible.

That would be one way to solve the problem of every instance having a version of one specific type of community.

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