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Doesn’t defederated mean cut off? Because I certainly get beehaw content at lemmy.world. Just when sorting by “hot” seems different. Then averaged over a bunch of subs, my home feed is quite different.
Anyway 🤷♂️
that should be because lemmy.world did not defederate with beehaw, it only happened one way.
federation is not perfect, it might take a while for posts and comments to sync up so you might be able to see differences because of that. also in a smaller instance you might have to search the community by it's full name to start federation (if nobody subscribed to that community first from your instance), luckily lemmyverse exists so you can search there first then look it up.
hope this helps :3
Appreciate the explanation. Let me see if I understand. Beehaw defederated, which means you can stay in the beehaw bubble and never have to connect with/put up with the outside lemmy-verse.
Whereas from lemmy.world, all content is viewable, including beehaw …?
If that’s the case I might stick with my lemmy.world account as I can see more of the fediverse from there.
so let me try to explain more clearly, beehaws defederation makes it not very useful to stay subscribed to beehaw communities from lemmy.world
you can still see posts from beehaw communities but you can not see any votes or comments, for example look at this post from beehaw and from lemmy.world as you can see from lemmy.world's side it looks like a wasteland
what i meant was you can sign up to another small instance which is not defederated from beehaw like the one i am in, lemmy.zip and participate in both of the communities, also lemmyverse is a website that you can use to discover communities to subscribe to or instances to sign up.
feel free to pm me if you have more questions
I appreciate the explanation, and I understand exactly what you’re saying. My confusion though is that it doesn’t match what I’m seeing. I’m using the Voyager web app if that makes a difference.
An example: I can see posts and comments at gaming@beehaw.org from lemmy.world. So I don’t see a wasteland. I just see a smaller number of and different posts, compared to looking at the same sub from beehaw.org. It’s the same place, looking at the sidebar. Just that different content appears to be available depending on the home location gaming viewed from.
Could it be that what I’m seeing from lemmy.world are just the crossposts (if such a thing exists here)? And perhaps comments from non-beehaw.org users? That’s why it’s not total empty, just reduced?
Also: when an instance defederates, is that from everywhere or just selected instances? For example, what you’re saying is that beehaw is blocking lemmy.world but not other smaller instances. And so I should sign up at a smaller non-blocked instance which will then see everything …?
those comments and votes and are all from lemmy.world users though, what you are seeing is like lemmy.world users posting to that community and talking in their own little bubble that will never get seen outside of lemmy.world because it never will reach beehaw and distribute to other beehaw subscribers outside of the beehaw
Got it. Thanks for explaining!
To kind of answer one of my own questions after rereading all the comments here, defederation seems to be per-instance, not from everywhere.
So picking a smaller, well run, non-controversial instance for you account can be an advantage, as you should be connected to everywhere.
The risk seems to be that smaller instances have a higher risk of shutting down unexpectedly and/or not being as well maintained (updates, security etc).
Beehaw just cant see what you post i think