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I saw someone on Reddit wondering why the community was so sure of Trek going dark again with Paramount not doing so well financially. Seeing the response was unfortunate as most people feel that it might be a bad time for Trek. And I guess it makes sense with the Hollywood strikes as well.

But I was curious what Lemmy thought. Maybe im in denial too but I'm curious if you guys think the worry is warranted.

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[–] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sometimes I'm surprised I don't have a Starfleet emblem-shaped knot on my face from banging my head on the desk from frustration with how Star Trek gets treated by those in control of it.

My experience with Star Trek's treatment by TPTBThe Powers That Be (TPTB): TNG was a syndication ratings success. It even beat out some network shows.

Star Trek fans: Yes!

TPTB: DS9 and VOY did well in syndication, too. And, TOS is the Star Trek OG of being well received in syndication.

ST fans: That's right!

TPTB: ENT did good, as well. Also syndicated.

ST Fans: You bet!

TPTB: But, we weren't rolling in the dough with Nemesis.

ST Fans: We're talking about series. That's a film.

TPTB: Maybe fans are burned out on Star Trek.

ST Fans: Never!

TPTB: We'll leave the property alone.

ST Fans: unhappy noises

-- After the Kelvin films --

TPTB: Hey, there are still fans of Star Trek.

ST Fans: Been here since 1966.

TPTB: Happy 2017! We've made a new Star Trek series.

ST Fans: Yay!

TPTB: Syndication of prior Star Trek shows worked out well, so ...

ST Fans: yesss

TPTB: ... we're going to shorten what's a considered a season and gate this new series behind a paywall on a new streaming platform.

ST Fans: Wait, what?

-- Later --

TPTB: This streaming thing is working out okay. We'll make some more Star Trek shows.

ST fans: confetti and cheers

TPTB: But, we aren't making as much money as we'd like.

ST fans: There's also syndication. Broadcast TV, and you do own Pluto TV which is making bank.

TPTB: If only there was some way to better monetize the IP.

ST fans: More collectibles, toys, plushies, books, comics, calendars.

TPTB: Yeah, we can't think of a way.

ST Fans: frustrated sighs

I think Star Trek is not doomed. I think Star Trek will continue, and be awesome. I think waiting on TPTB to figure it out will be frustrating. Until then, I'm going to keep on keeping on with Star Trek.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither Voyager nor Enterprise were syndicated - they were UPN shows.

[–] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

@ValueSubtracted@startrek.website @transwarp@startrek.website

You are correct, I am in error. VOY and ENT's first run was on UPN.

[–] transwarp@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Voyager wasn't syndicated, it launched UPN, which was Paramount's hope for Star Trek since the 70s. Then Enterprise rode out the network almost to its dissolution. We wouldn't have had a project ready to morph into TMP without Phase 2 and the planned and then abandoned network.

[–] regeya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It was briefly syndicated, I think; I watched the first season on the local ABC affiliate. In my area a tiny little TV station in the middle of a cornfield got the rights to TNG and I honestly think that's what kept that station afloat. The affiliates fought over DS9 and VOY. There was a UPN station in my region but it was too week for me to watch it OTA.

Paramount's real problem is that they can't run a network to save their lives and keep trying it again and again. Paramount+ is just UPN 2: Streaming Boogaloo.

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I really like this take. 🖖